1 00:00:45,299 --> 00:00:41,540 [Music] 2 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:45,309 this hope radio for the masses headline 3 00:00:50,340 --> 00:00:48,850 of the food July 8 1947 the Army Air 4 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:50,350 Force has announced that are flying 5 00:00:54,990 --> 00:00:52,690 there - found and is now in the 6 00:00:58,520 --> 00:00:55,000 possession of the army the game is 7 00:01:01,380 --> 00:00:58,530 rigged changed the game changer I 8 00:01:05,670 --> 00:01:01,390 occasionally think how quickly our 9 00:01:08,219 --> 00:01:05,680 differences worldwide would vanish if we 10 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:08,229 were facing an alien threat from outside 11 00:01:14,070 --> 00:01:11,530 it is working 12 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:14,080 [Applause] 13 00:01:19,770 --> 00:01:16,810 this is baked and black with your host 14 00:01:22,950 --> 00:01:19,780 Jimmy church on the game-changer Radio 15 00:01:25,790 --> 00:01:22,960 Network and kg are a the global radio 16 00:01:31,950 --> 00:01:26,890 [Music] 17 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:31,960 need your help to get to the year 1985 18 00:01:37,620 --> 00:01:35,650 [Music] 19 00:01:39,810 --> 00:01:37,630 you listening today too 20 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:39,820 with Jimmy judge only game change in 21 00:01:48,660 --> 00:01:40,770 that blood 22 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:48,670 [Music] 23 00:01:52,380 --> 00:01:50,730 good evening fade to black 24 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:52,390 [Music] 25 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:05,470 radios for Masse's yeah man how you doin 26 00:02:13,660 --> 00:02:10,970 today's Wednesday November 28 2018 332 27 00:02:15,980 --> 00:02:13,670 days into the new year just 33 days left 28 00:02:19,310 --> 00:02:15,990 almost done 29 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:19,320 Skid 2018 behind us can't wait for 2019 30 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:20,690 is gonna be amazing 31 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:23,370 we are live from a bunker somewhere in 32 00:02:27,950 --> 00:02:25,170 the middle of beautiful downtown Burbank 33 00:02:29,690 --> 00:02:27,960 California and I would like to welcome 34 00:02:33,890 --> 00:02:29,700 everybody listening all around the world 35 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:33,900 Hall across the United States hither and 36 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:36,210 thither to and fro back and forth up and 37 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:39,210 down least in west north and south far 38 00:02:43,790 --> 00:02:40,530 and near 39 00:02:46,070 --> 00:02:43,800 this is fade to black for kjc are the 40 00:02:49,550 --> 00:02:46,080 game changer network and kgr a the 41 00:02:53,059 --> 00:02:49,560 planets I am your host Jimmy Church what 42 00:02:59,839 --> 00:02:56,360 very excited about tonight Scott Wolter 43 00:03:02,599 --> 00:02:59,849 is back and we're gonna discuss the loss 44 00:03:04,759 --> 00:03:02,609 Templar journals of Prince Henry 45 00:03:06,349 --> 00:03:04,769 Sinclair and some other stuff too as 46 00:03:08,539 --> 00:03:06,359 well you know what happens when Scott is 47 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:08,549 here tomorrow night's another Fator 48 00:03:14,089 --> 00:03:11,250 night with Theresa and Aris and deveined 49 00:03:17,740 --> 00:03:14,099 frequency on the airwaves followed by 50 00:03:21,550 --> 00:03:17,750 open lines all night long all right 51 00:03:27,099 --> 00:03:24,199 I'm stellar calm you know what you do 52 00:03:32,330 --> 00:03:27,109 there go follow send me a friend request 53 00:03:33,920 --> 00:03:32,340 twitter @jj radio facebook's still alive 54 00:03:37,159 --> 00:03:33,930 and kicking more on that in just a 55 00:03:40,460 --> 00:03:37,169 minute youtube yeah I think we're live 56 00:03:42,319 --> 00:03:40,470 on YouTube right now so there you go and 57 00:03:44,500 --> 00:03:42,329 you can subscribe to our YouTube channel 58 00:03:47,089 --> 00:03:44,510 that's right there.i 59 00:03:49,879 --> 00:03:47,099 alright hello to everybody in the bunker 60 00:03:52,250 --> 00:03:49,889 cam and and what you are doing everybody 61 00:03:55,610 --> 00:03:52,260 on Twitter is lighting up already I like 62 00:03:57,979 --> 00:03:55,620 the da or the the cow the cow that's 63 00:04:00,770 --> 00:03:57,989 pretty cool with the UFO in the 64 00:04:03,770 --> 00:04:00,780 background and that's from ant in Oz I 65 00:04:06,770 --> 00:04:03,780 love my dancing gifts as they kick off 66 00:04:09,559 --> 00:04:06,780 tonight kind of kind of light where's my 67 00:04:11,719 --> 00:04:09,569 dancers kind of light on the dancers 68 00:04:13,399 --> 00:04:11,729 tonight what's going on folks what's 69 00:04:16,069 --> 00:04:13,409 going on all right add teacher Trey do 70 00:04:18,039 --> 00:04:16,079 you know what to do right hashtag f2 B 71 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:18,049 is the sandbox 72 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:20,849 hashtag f2 b you can comment right there 73 00:04:26,570 --> 00:04:23,970 in real-time we have to chatrooms one at 74 00:04:29,029 --> 00:04:26,580 Spreaker one over at kg ra the planet 75 00:04:32,379 --> 00:04:29,039 and of course there's email Jimmy at 76 00:04:35,330 --> 00:04:32,389 Jimmy Church radio calm all right now 77 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:35,340 it's let's just get straight to it 78 00:04:41,060 --> 00:04:38,130 there's a lot to do tonight Scott is 79 00:04:45,170 --> 00:04:41,070 here and one of the great things about 80 00:04:46,610 --> 00:04:45,180 having Scott on the show is he he and I 81 00:04:50,270 --> 00:04:46,620 just always have a great conversation 82 00:04:54,589 --> 00:04:50,280 and leading up to this 83 00:04:56,300 --> 00:04:54,599 we were outlining this show going back 84 00:04:59,779 --> 00:04:56,310 now for about a month as we started this 85 00:05:01,339 --> 00:04:59,789 set up for tonight and and going back 86 00:05:03,140 --> 00:05:01,349 and forth coming up with different 87 00:05:05,510 --> 00:05:03,150 things that you know you know just kind 88 00:05:08,390 --> 00:05:05,520 of flavours for the conversation 89 00:05:09,770 --> 00:05:08,400 and and I gotta tell you I don't know 90 00:05:13,129 --> 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--> 00:07:40,230 fresh let's get this show crackin happy 147 00:07:49,070 --> 00:07:44,010 birthday to today Judd Nelson Judd 148 00:07:51,980 --> 00:07:49,080 Nelson is 58 years old and of course you 149 00:07:53,870 --> 00:07:51,990 know why he makes he makes the list he 150 00:07:58,240 --> 00:07:53,880 makes the list because he played John 151 00:08:02,390 --> 00:07:58,250 bender in The Breakfast Club 152 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:02,400 bender Judd Nelson also today Randy 153 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:06,410 Newman is 75 years old Randy Newman is 154 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:12,930 half half 50% he's half of the reason 155 00:08:18,530 --> 00:08:15,330 why I moved to Los Angeles it was that 156 00:08:21,230 --> 00:08:18,540 song I love LA that's right Randy Newman 157 00:08:21,860 --> 00:08:21,240 that video Randy Newman today is 75 158 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:21,870 years old 159 00:08:27,230 --> 00:08:25,890 Jon Stewart today is 55 now I know what 160 00:08:29,390 --> 00:08:27,240 you're thinking you're going okay Jimmy 161 00:08:32,750 --> 00:08:29,400 John Stewart's here because of the Daily 162 00:08:34,700 --> 00:08:32,760 Show he's a funny guy no that's not why 163 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:34,710 Jon Stewart makes the list Jon Stewart 164 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:40,010 makes the list because of the faculty 165 00:08:50,510 --> 00:08:44,210 yeah he played oh that was the thing 166 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:50,520 about that his name in the movie Oh a 167 00:08:57,290 --> 00:08:55,050 professor Edward Furlong and I always 168 00:09:00,530 --> 00:08:57,300 remember that wasn't that the actor's 169 00:09:03,260 --> 00:09:00,540 name in Terminator the kid wasn't he 170 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:03,270 Edward Furlong is that some kind of play 171 00:09:09,590 --> 00:09:06,330 is that some kind of I don't know anyway 172 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:09,600 John Stewart at the faculty it was just 173 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:13,050 a great role all right now why why is 174 00:09:19,340 --> 00:09:16,410 that a defender this woman as a because 175 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:19,350 oh that's funny that's funny what was 176 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:22,290 that that was uh was that history of the 177 00:09:29,030 --> 00:09:25,890 world that Mel Brooks that comes in from 178 00:09:31,310 --> 00:09:29,040 mark over in Australia I believe so I 179 00:09:32,499 --> 00:09:31,320 believe so our dead guys birthday today 180 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:32,509 is 181 00:09:40,100 --> 00:09:36,930 Anna Nicole Smith 1967 to 2007 died at 182 00:09:43,249 --> 00:09:40,110 the age of 39 married billionaire J 183 00:09:46,939 --> 00:09:43,259 Howard Marshall in 1994 she starred in 184 00:09:49,730 --> 00:09:46,949 the Anna Nicole show and I can't 185 00:09:52,639 --> 00:09:49,740 remember what network that was on and 186 00:09:56,449 --> 00:09:52,649 she was also the 1993 Playboy Playmate 187 00:09:58,879 --> 00:09:56,459 of the Year On February 8th 2007 Smith 188 00:10:01,069 --> 00:09:58,889 was found dead in room 607 at the 189 00:10:04,639 --> 00:10:01,079 Seminole Hard Rock Hotel and Casino in 190 00:10:08,439 --> 00:10:04,649 Hollywood Florida no illegal drugs were 191 00:10:13,549 --> 00:10:08,449 found in her system but chloral hydrate 192 00:10:17,749 --> 00:10:13,559 klonopin ativan see racks Valium and six 193 00:10:20,869 --> 00:10:17,759 other prescriptions were yeah some say 194 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:20,879 it was foul play there you go happy 195 00:10:28,610 --> 00:10:23,370 birthday Anna Nicole Smith on the state 196 00:10:32,509 --> 00:10:28,620 history OTD 1994 serial killer Jeffrey 197 00:10:36,710 --> 00:10:32,519 Dahmer serving 15 consecutive life 198 00:10:40,759 --> 00:10:36,720 sentences is beaten to death by a fellow 199 00:10:42,769 --> 00:10:40,769 inmate yeah you know I remember seeing 200 00:10:46,249 --> 00:10:42,779 that on TV looks like it's got a 201 00:10:48,439 --> 00:10:46,259 breaking booze I was like what but then 202 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:48,449 again he kind of expected that to happen 203 00:10:54,170 --> 00:10:52,170 so there you go fader fact okay now when 204 00:10:55,639 --> 00:10:54,180 it comes to fader facts that's a great 205 00:10:56,319 --> 00:10:55,649 picture there mark where did you get 206 00:11:04,730 --> 00:10:56,329 that 207 00:11:07,100 --> 00:11:04,740 hi I can't read it but there's the crew 208 00:11:11,049 --> 00:11:07,110 that's the crew right there that's uh 209 00:11:16,059 --> 00:11:11,059 that's gonna get a retweet fader fact 210 00:11:21,069 --> 00:11:16,069 are you ready I did not know this a 211 00:11:25,490 --> 00:11:21,079 donkey can see all four of its feet at 212 00:11:28,389 --> 00:11:25,500 all times that's right oh maybe I need 213 00:11:33,499 --> 00:11:28,399 to repeat that if you didn't get it a 214 00:11:38,660 --> 00:11:33,509 donkey can see all four of its feet at 215 00:11:41,990 --> 00:11:38,670 all times yeah you know I guess it's 216 00:11:43,340 --> 00:11:42,000 because the i right i they stick so I 217 00:11:46,700 --> 00:11:43,350 don't know it's 218 00:11:48,890 --> 00:11:46,710 but they can and that is your fate or 219 00:11:50,630 --> 00:11:48,900 fact tonight Scott Wolter is here he's 220 00:11:52,970 --> 00:11:50,640 back we're gonna be discussing well 221 00:11:55,940 --> 00:11:52,980 we've got two actual stories tonight or 222 00:11:58,040 --> 00:11:55,950 two two things that would that we're 223 00:12:00,200 --> 00:11:58,050 gonna weave together that don't seem 224 00:12:01,700 --> 00:12:00,210 connected at first but they are and it's 225 00:12:02,900 --> 00:12:01,710 all about the Knights Templar so that's 226 00:12:04,610 --> 00:12:02,910 what we're gonna do tonight we're going 227 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:04,620 to talk about the lost Templar journals 228 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:07,410 of Prince Henry Sinclair who is Henry 229 00:12:10,970 --> 00:12:08,970 Sinclair we're gonna get to all of that 230 00:12:13,460 --> 00:12:10,980 tonight tomorrow night's another Fator 231 00:12:15,620 --> 00:12:13,470 night with Theresa and Aris and Devine 232 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:15,630 frequency on the airwaves followed by 233 00:12:21,860 --> 00:12:20,130 open lines all night long I let me hit 234 00:12:24,380 --> 00:12:21,870 this River moon coffee you know I've got 235 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:24,390 a few traditions here all right I've got 236 00:12:29,210 --> 00:12:26,730 a few traditions and one of them I was 237 00:12:32,930 --> 00:12:29,220 telling Rita I'm just about done with 238 00:12:39,110 --> 00:12:32,940 the bunker camp I don't want to do it 239 00:12:42,680 --> 00:12:39,120 anymore I don't I I just don't I I like 240 00:12:45,530 --> 00:12:42,690 I like when I go over to hosts coast to 241 00:12:50,350 --> 00:12:45,540 coast because there's no camera staring 242 00:12:52,430 --> 00:12:50,360 at me you know for for three hours I 243 00:12:55,910 --> 00:12:52,440 think we're gonna lose the bunker cam 244 00:12:58,430 --> 00:12:55,920 are you gonna be upset I mean what do 245 00:13:00,860 --> 00:12:58,440 you get out of the bunker cam you know 246 00:13:02,870 --> 00:13:00,870 looking at one guy talking on a 247 00:13:05,060 --> 00:13:02,880 microphone for three hours I mean how 248 00:13:07,940 --> 00:13:05,070 much entertainment is that is that worth 249 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:07,950 anything I don't know I don't know I'm 250 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:09,930 just I think I'm about done with it the 251 00:13:14,570 --> 00:13:11,850 other night when the Bucer cam went down 252 00:13:16,820 --> 00:13:14,580 and and I was able to just sit in here 253 00:13:19,340 --> 00:13:16,830 and do my thing and I you know it's just 254 00:13:24,230 --> 00:13:19,350 something about that just you know I 255 00:13:26,750 --> 00:13:24,240 don't know let's see but you have you 256 00:13:28,340 --> 00:13:26,760 have this really nice moon tent I do not 257 00:13:33,410 --> 00:13:28,350 I have no tan 258 00:13:37,790 --> 00:13:33,420 about the possibility of the end of 259 00:13:41,030 --> 00:13:37,800 Facebook and well at least the version 260 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:41,040 of Facebook that we see today and also 261 00:13:44,540 --> 00:13:43,290 to that end you know Google as well you 262 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:44,550 know the two are complete virtual 263 00:13:48,860 --> 00:13:46,530 monopolies if you think about it with 264 00:13:51,410 --> 00:13:48,870 far too much power you know Amazon is 265 00:13:54,020 --> 00:13:51,420 getting there too as well you know but 266 00:13:55,929 --> 00:13:54,030 but I completely embrace the technology 267 00:13:58,299 --> 00:13:55,939 and I always have I'm 268 00:14:01,449 --> 00:13:58,309 technology geek I love it mana from the 269 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:01,459 very beginning my first black-and-white 270 00:14:07,899 --> 00:14:04,970 laptop and I had Lotus male and I was 271 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:07,909 able to go and have email and if you 272 00:14:14,799 --> 00:14:11,569 know we're talking about 1994 oh man it 273 00:14:17,409 --> 00:14:14,809 was just a you know in PCMCIA cards and 274 00:14:19,329 --> 00:14:17,419 and finally got a you know I had a 275 00:14:21,189 --> 00:14:19,339 floppy drive at first and then my next 276 00:14:23,799 --> 00:14:21,199 computer got a color screen I think I 277 00:14:25,509 --> 00:14:23,809 got a cd-rom drive and oh man it was 278 00:14:28,839 --> 00:14:25,519 just till those were glorious days 279 00:14:32,589 --> 00:14:28,849 technology and and things and dongles 280 00:14:34,899 --> 00:14:32,599 and cables and it's new software and 281 00:14:37,869 --> 00:14:34,909 Mozilla and just thinks you know was 282 00:14:40,479 --> 00:14:37,879 just exciting exciting times and I've 283 00:14:42,549 --> 00:14:40,489 always embraced the technology and I'll 284 00:14:44,919 --> 00:14:42,559 never change look what this show is 285 00:14:47,919 --> 00:14:44,929 right it's about the technology but you 286 00:14:51,549 --> 00:14:47,929 see here's the thing for all of the good 287 00:14:54,789 --> 00:14:51,559 things that we get from Facebook and 288 00:14:57,099 --> 00:14:54,799 Google and social media such as you know 289 00:14:59,799 --> 00:14:57,109 connecting with friends right you have 290 00:15:01,749 --> 00:14:59,809 an almost unlimited library of knowledge 291 00:15:04,239 --> 00:15:01,759 you have effective advertising that is 292 00:15:06,429 --> 00:15:04,249 you know actually pretty cool you've got 293 00:15:08,109 --> 00:15:06,439 delivery and logistics for shopping 294 00:15:10,509 --> 00:15:08,119 you've got streaming entertainment and 295 00:15:13,389 --> 00:15:10,519 so much more right and the development 296 00:15:15,609 --> 00:15:13,399 of that future tech positive engineering 297 00:15:21,879 --> 00:15:15,619 it seems to be the focus and that part 298 00:15:23,710 --> 00:15:21,889 of it is good I get it I really do but 299 00:15:26,889 --> 00:15:23,720 there's something that really bothers me 300 00:15:29,259 --> 00:15:26,899 and it's that for all of the genuine 301 00:15:31,569 --> 00:15:29,269 focus on personal individual and 302 00:15:34,239 --> 00:15:31,579 corporate invention there seems to be an 303 00:15:38,349 --> 00:15:34,249 absolute ignorance towards the fake news 304 00:15:41,559 --> 00:15:38,359 right trolling hate speech all right 305 00:15:44,859 --> 00:15:41,569 negative blogs polarization just the 306 00:15:47,229 --> 00:15:44,869 extremes of everything Facebook and 307 00:15:49,659 --> 00:15:47,239 other social sites which started off to 308 00:15:54,159 --> 00:15:49,669 bring us all together today they're 309 00:15:58,089 --> 00:15:54,169 causing such severe behavior loneliness 310 00:16:00,909 --> 00:15:58,099 bitterness sadness hate all in a quest 311 00:16:03,729 --> 00:16:00,919 for more likes and friends and followers 312 00:16:05,710 --> 00:16:03,739 and subs and clicks and views and now we 313 00:16:07,269 --> 00:16:05,720 have bullies and trolls follow you 314 00:16:10,069 --> 00:16:07,279 wherever you go you know 315 00:16:12,019 --> 00:16:10,079 it just doesn't matter who you are you 316 00:16:13,789 --> 00:16:12,029 could be somebody on Facebook with 50 317 00:16:17,359 --> 00:16:13,799 friends and you've got people trolling 318 00:16:19,939 --> 00:16:17,369 you right making your life miserable the 319 00:16:21,650 --> 00:16:19,949 news follows you the negativity follows 320 00:16:23,539 --> 00:16:21,660 you wherever you go you sign off on a 321 00:16:25,699 --> 00:16:23,549 computer and it's following on your 322 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:25,709 phone or a tablet you know it's just it 323 00:16:32,569 --> 00:16:28,970 never escapes you it's just always there 324 00:16:36,289 --> 00:16:32,579 right the cycle never ends it doesn't 325 00:16:39,349 --> 00:16:36,299 break it's it's a continuous thing that 326 00:16:42,530 --> 00:16:39,359 feeds itself and it ways people down 327 00:16:46,189 --> 00:16:42,540 it's changing the social fabric of us 328 00:16:48,470 --> 00:16:46,199 and I'm seriously concerned that these 329 00:16:51,199 --> 00:16:48,480 great tech giants out there have not 330 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:51,209 learned anything from these mistakes or 331 00:16:57,019 --> 00:16:53,850 that they care about it the negative 332 00:17:01,879 --> 00:16:57,029 sides of their powerful social platforms 333 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:01,889 they don't care they don't I remember 334 00:17:07,879 --> 00:17:05,250 many years ago when I saw my first 335 00:17:11,569 --> 00:17:07,889 comment from somebody that I knew and 336 00:17:15,289 --> 00:17:11,579 this was I'm going back let's I'm going 337 00:17:19,100 --> 00:17:15,299 back like eight or nine years you know 338 00:17:21,110 --> 00:17:19,110 that that long ago and I and I see this 339 00:17:22,850 --> 00:17:21,120 first negative comment from somebody 340 00:17:26,090 --> 00:17:22,860 that is a friend somebody that I worked 341 00:17:28,460 --> 00:17:26,100 somebody that I knew right well and it 342 00:17:31,159 --> 00:17:28,470 was just so out of character for this 343 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:31,169 person that I genuinely felt it's just a 344 00:17:38,509 --> 00:17:35,490 nice person right but the comment was 345 00:17:41,870 --> 00:17:38,519 really bad and really negative and it 346 00:17:44,629 --> 00:17:41,880 wasn't at me it was just in a thread on 347 00:17:49,399 --> 00:17:44,639 Facebook and I thought to myself at that 348 00:17:52,610 --> 00:17:49,409 time Facebook is not gonna put up with 349 00:17:55,070 --> 00:17:52,620 this you know it was like the first time 350 00:17:58,519 --> 00:17:55,080 I saw something like that like a troll 351 00:18:01,340 --> 00:17:58,529 like a bully like it just just and I 352 00:18:04,430 --> 00:18:01,350 thought there's no way right well 353 00:18:06,350 --> 00:18:04,440 Facebook did put up with it and it was 354 00:18:10,580 --> 00:18:06,360 just the beginning and I thought when I 355 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:10,590 saw that that if I had typed the same 356 00:18:15,639 --> 00:18:12,690 thing right if I had just gone off the 357 00:18:18,259 --> 00:18:15,649 rails which I never have by the way but 358 00:18:19,789 --> 00:18:18,269 if I just gone off the rails about you 359 00:18:20,690 --> 00:18:19,799 know I would get some message Facebook 360 00:18:22,370 --> 00:18:20,700 is turning 361 00:18:23,990 --> 00:18:22,380 did your account you know that they 362 00:18:28,130 --> 00:18:24,000 wouldn't allow this kind of stuff to 363 00:18:30,170 --> 00:18:28,140 happen but that was the beginning it was 364 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:30,180 the beginning and things have just gone 365 00:18:36,670 --> 00:18:33,090 off the rails ever since now we can look 366 00:18:40,420 --> 00:18:36,680 at this in one of two ways either 367 00:18:44,330 --> 00:18:40,430 Facebook didn't know about their impact 368 00:18:50,090 --> 00:18:44,340 right they didn't know what they would 369 00:18:52,370 --> 00:18:50,100 do to society they didn't know or they 370 00:18:55,100 --> 00:18:52,380 did know and they wanted to use it to 371 00:18:57,880 --> 00:18:55,110 make more money and be of service to the 372 00:19:02,390 --> 00:18:57,890 darker corners of the world who need it 373 00:19:05,020 --> 00:19:02,400 it's it's either/or and when we try to 374 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:05,030 figure this out one thing is very clear 375 00:19:12,830 --> 00:19:10,490 to me nobody in Silicon Valley cares 376 00:19:15,290 --> 00:19:12,840 nobody in Silicon Valley wants to answer 377 00:19:17,750 --> 00:19:15,300 for it they don't want to admit it and 378 00:19:22,010 --> 00:19:17,760 they certainly don't want to attempt to 379 00:19:28,850 --> 00:19:22,020 fix it but here's the really scary part 380 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:28,860 for me there are some very clever dark 381 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:31,530 and nasty people out there who 382 00:19:36,790 --> 00:19:33,930 understand the vile part of social 383 00:19:41,360 --> 00:19:36,800 networks and their impact on the masses 384 00:19:43,700 --> 00:19:41,370 they get it they get it whether Facebook 385 00:19:47,660 --> 00:19:43,710 and everybody else out there that 386 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:47,670 includes Twitter and snapchat Instagram 387 00:19:53,510 --> 00:19:51,050 whatever you want to you know whatever 388 00:19:59,120 --> 00:19:53,520 whether they get it or not 389 00:20:02,540 --> 00:19:59,130 other people do dark they don't want 390 00:20:05,540 --> 00:20:02,550 Facebook fixed or Twitter YouTube and 391 00:20:11,630 --> 00:20:05,550 they don't they don't want any of it 392 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:11,640 fixed actually they want more but I have 393 00:20:22,100 --> 00:20:17,970 a solution I always do right dan Betts 394 00:20:24,740 --> 00:20:22,110 Dan I don't know you but that is one of 395 00:20:28,850 --> 00:20:24,750 the best tweets I've ever seen as well 396 00:20:33,259 --> 00:20:28,860 done I have a solution 397 00:20:39,500 --> 00:20:33,269 and it's a simple one one that we all 398 00:20:43,190 --> 00:20:39,510 grew up with and it works first is what 399 00:20:50,529 --> 00:20:43,200 you do now now I need you to just go 400 00:20:54,529 --> 00:20:50,539 with me listen to me we need to create a 401 00:21:00,950 --> 00:20:54,539 Facebook to Facebook needs to create a 402 00:21:03,889 --> 00:21:00,960 Facebook to write Facebook to Facebook 403 00:21:07,610 --> 00:21:03,899 to where you can join voluntarily no 404 00:21:10,820 --> 00:21:07,620 problem doesn't matter right 405 00:21:14,090 --> 00:21:10,830 but at Facebook too you can do whatever 406 00:21:16,899 --> 00:21:14,100 you want that's right and you know that 407 00:21:21,379 --> 00:21:16,909 going in and so does everybody else 408 00:21:24,769 --> 00:21:21,389 trolls control trolls bullies can be 409 00:21:28,129 --> 00:21:24,779 bullying bullies all of the hate and 410 00:21:29,779 --> 00:21:28,139 extremism you can handle you can share 411 00:21:33,710 --> 00:21:29,789 some fake news while you're there you 412 00:21:36,830 --> 00:21:33,720 get to live it up you get caught 413 00:21:40,430 --> 00:21:36,840 violating the terms of community conduct 414 00:21:46,580 --> 00:21:40,440 on any social media platform and you get 415 00:21:48,500 --> 00:21:46,590 sent to Facebook - all right you know 416 00:21:51,169 --> 00:21:48,510 how it is Ben you know you're an eighth 417 00:21:53,210 --> 00:21:51,179 grade you show up in class and that one 418 00:21:54,710 --> 00:21:53,220 kid that was just causing trouble and 419 00:22:01,639 --> 00:21:54,720 his seat is empty he's like where'd he 420 00:22:03,710 --> 00:22:01,649 go he's in the special school really you 421 00:22:09,860 --> 00:22:03,720 know and you will do anything to get 422 00:22:12,830 --> 00:22:09,870 back to society do you be so dice he'll 423 00:22:15,789 --> 00:22:12,840 do anything all right and that's that 424 00:22:19,399 --> 00:22:15,799 that's what we need we need a Facebook - 425 00:22:22,970 --> 00:22:19,409 that's right and if that is if that is 426 00:22:25,850 --> 00:22:22,980 your goal to just be negative to spread 427 00:22:27,950 --> 00:22:25,860 fake news or to bully people or 428 00:22:30,710 --> 00:22:27,960 extremism if that's what you really want 429 00:22:32,899 --> 00:22:30,720 go to where you can do it nobody's gonna 430 00:22:36,169 --> 00:22:32,909 care and if you really want to troll go 431 00:22:38,539 --> 00:22:36,179 troll another troll there you go just go 432 00:22:40,970 --> 00:22:38,549 and do go hang out with other go and 433 00:22:42,269 --> 00:22:40,980 hang out with your kind all right and 434 00:22:47,879 --> 00:22:42,279 leave us 435 00:22:51,299 --> 00:22:47,889 loan and get banished and you don't get 436 00:22:53,879 --> 00:22:51,309 a second chance you don't you get six 437 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:53,889 months at Facebook too and when you come 438 00:23:01,879 --> 00:22:56,369 out you're gonna be a changed person 439 00:23:03,930 --> 00:23:01,889 yeah does it sound harsh not really 440 00:23:08,009 --> 00:23:03,940 we've been doing it for years 441 00:23:12,060 --> 00:23:08,019 is it censorship or a freedom of speech 442 00:23:14,399 --> 00:23:12,070 issue no it's not not at all because 443 00:23:17,789 --> 00:23:14,409 over at Facebook too you're free to say 444 00:23:22,649 --> 00:23:17,799 or do whatever you want 24/7 it's open 445 00:23:25,619 --> 00:23:22,659 all night it's a it's an easy and very 446 00:23:29,149 --> 00:23:25,629 simple thing to do but it'll never 447 00:23:31,349 --> 00:23:29,159 happen it'll never happen 448 00:23:33,269 --> 00:23:31,359 Facebook and all of the other social 449 00:23:34,379 --> 00:23:33,279 networks could clean up everything 450 00:23:37,469 --> 00:23:34,389 virtually overnight 451 00:23:40,139 --> 00:23:37,479 seriously they could if you think about 452 00:23:42,749 --> 00:23:40,149 it if they care if they really wanted to 453 00:23:44,310 --> 00:23:42,759 all of this could be fixed the word 454 00:23:45,899 --> 00:23:44,320 there would be no trolling there would 455 00:23:47,339 --> 00:23:45,909 be no Xtreme there will be no hates me 456 00:23:50,039 --> 00:23:47,349 there would be fake news there will be 457 00:23:53,669 --> 00:23:50,049 there wouldn't be any of this but they 458 00:23:56,820 --> 00:23:53,679 don't want to do it they don't want a 459 00:23:59,310 --> 00:23:56,830 safe fun cool place for our friends and 460 00:24:04,320 --> 00:23:59,320 family and our children to hang out they 461 00:24:07,469 --> 00:24:04,330 really don't they don't the power's out 462 00:24:09,959 --> 00:24:07,479 there want you divided they want you 463 00:24:12,139 --> 00:24:09,969 pissed off they want you angry they want 464 00:24:15,829 --> 00:24:12,149 to confuse full of disinformation 465 00:24:18,629 --> 00:24:15,839 seriously and that is the truth 466 00:24:19,969 --> 00:24:18,639 otherwise they would do something about 467 00:24:24,629 --> 00:24:19,979 it 468 00:24:28,549 --> 00:24:24,639 honestly when was the last time one of 469 00:24:31,279 --> 00:24:28,559 the tech giant's made you feel happy 470 00:24:34,019 --> 00:24:31,289 what was the last time that happened 471 00:24:38,339 --> 00:24:34,029 when was the last time they made you 472 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:38,349 feel good about yourself right that's 473 00:24:43,349 --> 00:24:40,210 the world we are in today now you're 474 00:24:45,239 --> 00:24:43,359 probably asking yourself that this kind 475 00:24:45,930 --> 00:24:45,249 of commentary doesn't have a place on 476 00:24:49,049 --> 00:24:45,940 fade to black 477 00:24:51,899 --> 00:24:49,059 a show about UFOs and time travel and 478 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:51,909 the unexplained conspiracies well the 479 00:24:58,340 --> 00:24:54,930 answer is actually very simple 480 00:25:02,180 --> 00:24:58,350 and reading we've been watching science 481 00:25:05,570 --> 00:25:02,190 fiction about our current world today 482 00:25:08,540 --> 00:25:05,580 for over a hundred years that's right 483 00:25:12,170 --> 00:25:08,550 and at one time it was fun because there 484 00:25:15,140 --> 00:25:12,180 was no way that it could ever happen the 485 00:25:18,530 --> 00:25:15,150 tech Big Brother right the Machine 486 00:25:24,290 --> 00:25:18,540 controlling us that was all fantasy but 487 00:25:28,820 --> 00:25:24,300 it is here and it is real you need to 488 00:25:31,610 --> 00:25:28,830 think about that now tonight our guest 489 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:31,620 is Scott Wolter and we're going to be 490 00:25:36,350 --> 00:25:33,930 talking about the Knights Templar and a 491 00:25:43,630 --> 00:25:36,360 part of our history that wasn't supposed 492 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:43,640 to be real but it is think about that 493 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:48,570 the the days that we live today were 494 00:25:52,310 --> 00:25:51,210 supposed to be fantasy they weren't 495 00:25:55,100 --> 00:25:52,320 supposed to happen 496 00:26:00,290 --> 00:25:55,110 and it was fun and it was games and it 497 00:26:04,460 --> 00:26:00,300 was trial Allah today man man man we're 498 00:26:09,020 --> 00:26:04,470 living it we were warned we knew this 499 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:09,030 could happen and now it's here for real 500 00:26:16,730 --> 00:26:12,570 and I'm gonna say this in the most 501 00:26:20,150 --> 00:26:16,740 direct way that I can if Silicon Valley 502 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:20,160 at the tech giant scared they would fix 503 00:26:27,110 --> 00:26:23,330 it they would fix all of it all of it 504 00:26:29,750 --> 00:26:27,120 just like that all of the energy that 505 00:26:32,420 --> 00:26:29,760 they spend on everything else and they 506 00:26:35,180 --> 00:26:32,430 sure got that figured out they got the 507 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:35,190 engineers to do that they got the focus 508 00:26:41,270 --> 00:26:37,410 groups to me think about 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00:31:50,180 your order this is Jimmy church and 610 00:31:58,660 --> 00:31:52,880 whatever your diet plans are do what I 611 00:32:00,550 --> 00:31:58,670 did go too fast our diet calm from apple 612 00:32:12,820 --> 00:32:00,560 and you're listening to Jimmy George 613 00:32:12,830 --> 00:32:22,730 [Music] 614 00:32:26,270 --> 00:32:24,710 all right welcome back fade to black I'm 615 00:32:30,530 --> 00:32:26,280 your host Jimmy church tonight Scott 616 00:32:32,690 --> 00:32:30,540 Walters here we know him of course he's 617 00:32:34,370 --> 00:32:32,700 an author but he was also the host of 618 00:32:36,950 --> 00:32:34,380 history channel's America on earth one 619 00:32:38,210 --> 00:32:36,960 of my favorite series it's responsible 620 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:38,220 for the independent petrographic 621 00:32:43,010 --> 00:32:40,650 analysis testing laboratory where the 622 00:32:45,380 --> 00:32:43,020 Kensington Runestone was brought in for 623 00:32:48,710 --> 00:32:45,390 investigation in 2000 it's been a 624 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:48,720 principal photography in more than 5,000 625 00:32:51,740 --> 00:32:50,130 investigations throughout the United 626 00:32:54,110 --> 00:32:51,750 States Canada Puerto Rico and court 627 00:32:56,510 --> 00:32:54,120 including the evaluation of fire damage 628 00:32:59,990 --> 00:32:56,520 concrete at the Pentagon following the 629 00:33:01,790 --> 00:33:00,000 attacks of September 11 2001 tonight we 630 00:33:04,220 --> 00:33:01,800 are going to discuss the lost Templar 631 00:33:06,530 --> 00:33:04,230 journals of Prince Henry Sinclair I 632 00:33:09,890 --> 00:33:06,540 would like to welcome back the one and 633 00:33:12,770 --> 00:33:09,900 only Scot Walters Scott how are you man 634 00:33:14,210 --> 00:33:12,780 I'm doing great Jimmy how are you hey 635 00:33:16,220 --> 00:33:14,220 you know it's always great to hear your 636 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:16,230 voice and this is the thing Scott I'm 637 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:19,250 gonna start off right here right now oh 638 00:33:26,030 --> 00:33:23,610 you you have a way and I don't know if 639 00:33:29,270 --> 00:33:26,040 it's your tone if it's your your 640 00:33:32,900 --> 00:33:29,280 demeanor but you have a way of 641 00:33:34,700 --> 00:33:32,910 delivering the truth certainly the truth 642 00:33:38,930 --> 00:33:34,710 is you see it I should say but 643 00:33:42,380 --> 00:33:38,940 delivering the truth and sometimes you 644 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:42,390 ruffle feathers you anger people but 645 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:46,850 that is what you do but with that comes 646 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:54,450 criticism but do you get used to it well 647 00:33:59,180 --> 00:33:56,370 I think you get used to it to a point I 648 00:34:00,560 --> 00:33:59,190 mean I think I don't think people you 649 00:34:02,570 --> 00:34:00,570 know people don't want to be criticized 650 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:02,580 I don't like to be criticized although I 651 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:05,850 have to admit sometimes sometimes I 652 00:34:10,820 --> 00:34:08,010 bring things on myself and you know as 653 00:34:13,909 --> 00:34:10,830 you said sometimes my style doesn't work 654 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:13,919 for people and you know humans are 655 00:34:18,500 --> 00:34:16,770 emotional creatures we all are and you 656 00:34:21,230 --> 00:34:18,510 know that emotions sometimes get in the 657 00:34:24,740 --> 00:34:21,240 way of delivering a message or receiving 658 00:34:26,690 --> 00:34:24,750 a message and and you know sometimes the 659 00:34:27,980 --> 00:34:26,700 way you portray something or you think 660 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:27,990 you're portraying something someone 661 00:34:31,909 --> 00:34:29,490 isn't receiving it the way you you're 662 00:34:35,629 --> 00:34:31,919 delivering it and that's just part of 663 00:34:36,470 --> 00:34:35,639 the human condition and I think you know 664 00:34:43,639 --> 00:34:36,480 some people 665 00:34:47,720 --> 00:34:43,649 it at all and you know I all I can do is 666 00:34:51,589 --> 00:34:47,730 just be Who I am and and and say what I 667 00:34:53,750 --> 00:34:51,599 believe the truth to be and you know say 668 00:34:56,180 --> 00:34:53,760 when I when I don't know I mean I think 669 00:34:57,980 --> 00:34:56,190 that's just as important is saying what 670 00:34:59,390 --> 00:34:57,990 I believe to be the truth is there's 671 00:35:02,089 --> 00:34:59,400 always a time you got to say I don't 672 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:02,099 know and some people don't like to do I 673 00:35:06,140 --> 00:35:04,290 don't like to do that but if it's if 674 00:35:09,730 --> 00:35:06,150 it's appropriate then I'll do it 675 00:35:12,500 --> 00:35:09,740 and some people just have a tough time 676 00:35:14,900 --> 00:35:12,510 hearing the truth if it's not what they 677 00:35:16,849 --> 00:35:14,910 believe and that's right I thought it 678 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:16,859 was that's right that's right it's 679 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:18,690 amazing to me how people hear what they 680 00:35:25,310 --> 00:35:23,130 want to hear a few years ago I flew back 681 00:35:26,839 --> 00:35:25,320 'yes my brother got married right I'm 682 00:35:33,470 --> 00:35:26,849 you know when you know one of the best 683 00:35:37,430 --> 00:35:33,480 men and I'm in the hotel room and I take 684 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:37,440 out my laptop and you and I just did a 685 00:35:43,180 --> 00:35:40,770 show together and I'm reading this is no 686 00:35:47,390 --> 00:35:43,190 joke I'm reading literally a 687 00:35:51,290 --> 00:35:47,400 line-by-line analysis of our entire 688 00:35:54,470 --> 00:35:51,300 two-and-a-half hour interview yes and 689 00:35:56,210 --> 00:35:54,480 and and and and the criticism in 690 00:35:58,940 --> 00:35:56,220 breaking it apart but this is the thing 691 00:36:00,890 --> 00:35:58,950 I I'm reading it and I'm thinking to 692 00:36:08,359 --> 00:36:00,900 myself exactly what you just said Scott 693 00:36:10,940 --> 00:36:08,369 did they even hear the same show how can 694 00:36:14,540 --> 00:36:10,950 this be the exact opposite of everything 695 00:36:17,390 --> 00:36:14,550 that was said III just people are gonna 696 00:36:20,720 --> 00:36:17,400 do exactly what you're talking about you 697 00:36:23,030 --> 00:36:20,730 know you I run a blog right and I get 698 00:36:24,770 --> 00:36:23,040 people that come on and people that are 699 00:36:30,470 --> 00:36:24,780 supporters people that have questions 700 00:36:33,050 --> 00:36:30,480 people but but most of the time it seems 701 00:36:34,550 --> 00:36:33,060 to me that I got trolls on there they 702 00:36:36,260 --> 00:36:34,560 don't want to tell me who they are they 703 00:36:38,809 --> 00:36:36,270 come on as anonymous sort of a make up 704 00:36:41,150 --> 00:36:38,819 some BS name and they just come on 705 00:36:43,700 --> 00:36:41,160 patrol and they play this this cute 706 00:36:46,190 --> 00:36:43,710 little game of gotcha they try to you 707 00:36:47,630 --> 00:36:46,200 know may ask some circular question to 708 00:36:49,590 --> 00:36:47,640 get you to say something that's not 709 00:36:52,590 --> 00:36:49,600 quite accurate 710 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:52,600 if you don't put the dot in a sentence 711 00:36:57,090 --> 00:36:54,610 they nail you on it and it's just this 712 00:37:00,360 --> 00:36:57,100 creepy little game that they play and 713 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:00,370 it's annoying as hell but you know it's 714 00:37:05,070 --> 00:37:02,290 just it's just again it's just how 715 00:37:09,030 --> 00:37:05,080 people are but I don't know if we're 716 00:37:10,650 --> 00:37:09,040 ever going to change that I just I shut 717 00:37:15,090 --> 00:37:10,660 it down as soon as it starts to get 718 00:37:17,550 --> 00:37:15,100 stupid and unproductive well there's 719 00:37:23,850 --> 00:37:17,560 nothing so with that let's just start 720 00:37:27,150 --> 00:37:23,860 talking okay this is this is what I find 721 00:37:29,850 --> 00:37:27,160 most interesting about life is that the 722 00:37:32,460 --> 00:37:29,860 more that I research the more that I 723 00:37:35,190 --> 00:37:32,470 interview the more shows that I do and 724 00:37:39,270 --> 00:37:35,200 and everything in my little world my 725 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:39,280 little bubble I find out that we we know 726 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:41,530 nothing right or at least what we've 727 00:37:48,620 --> 00:37:45,370 been told is not the truth and we are 728 00:37:51,240 --> 00:37:48,630 left to try to go and unravel this thing 729 00:37:56,820 --> 00:37:51,250 ourselves which is exactly what you've 730 00:37:59,220 --> 00:37:56,830 been doing now in a very basic sense we 731 00:38:02,550 --> 00:37:59,230 have all been taught since we were like 732 00:38:05,010 --> 00:38:02,560 three going to school Christopher 733 00:38:08,430 --> 00:38:05,020 Columbus 1492 sailed across the ocean 734 00:38:10,830 --> 00:38:08,440 blue right okay so we're indoctrinated 735 00:38:12,990 --> 00:38:10,840 right and that is that that is it that's 736 00:38:17,100 --> 00:38:13,000 the beginning of everything clearly 737 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:17,110 Scott that is not the case right and 738 00:38:23,220 --> 00:38:18,970 that's that's where we need to start 739 00:38:26,250 --> 00:38:23,230 tonight no that's not the case and I I 740 00:38:29,430 --> 00:38:26,260 don't think anybody who's really spent 741 00:38:30,870 --> 00:38:29,440 even five minutes on the internet or has 742 00:38:33,300 --> 00:38:30,880 been paying any attention at all 743 00:38:35,910 --> 00:38:33,310 believes that and you know let's let's 744 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:35,920 be let's be honest and say that the 745 00:38:41,070 --> 00:38:38,530 narrative is slowly but surely finally 746 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:41,080 changing I mean lots of meadows has 747 00:38:47,100 --> 00:38:44,530 really you know I mean burst that 748 00:38:49,050 --> 00:38:47,110 Columbus bottle bubble and it's it's 749 00:38:52,290 --> 00:38:49,060 it's not going to be blown up again it's 750 00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:52,300 done and I mean it's still slowly but 751 00:38:59,910 --> 00:38:58,090 surely being accepted in in in various 752 00:39:03,060 --> 00:38:59,920 places not even know what to call these 753 00:39:04,980 --> 00:39:03,070 these entities anymore but that is 754 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:04,990 changing and I think people realize now 755 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:08,290 that the Columbus thing was was BS but 756 00:39:12,990 --> 00:39:10,570 it was done for a reason for political 757 00:39:15,060 --> 00:39:13,000 reasons for religious reasons and for a 758 00:39:16,950 --> 00:39:15,070 while it served the purpose that certain 759 00:39:20,820 --> 00:39:16,960 people wanted it to serve but that's not 760 00:39:22,830 --> 00:39:20,830 what happened and you know what I've 761 00:39:25,140 --> 00:39:22,840 been focusing on it started with the 762 00:39:27,990 --> 00:39:25,150 Runestone and it led me directly to the 763 00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:28,000 Knights Templar and to them and nobody 764 00:39:34,170 --> 00:39:30,250 else but them and and quite frankly when 765 00:39:36,750 --> 00:39:34,180 I look back now I I just say to myself 766 00:39:39,030 --> 00:39:36,760 how the hell did people not see that and 767 00:39:42,390 --> 00:39:39,040 now when I say what I'm about to say 768 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:42,400 Jimmy this is not a you know I'm not 769 00:39:45,870 --> 00:39:44,050 trying to be cute I'm not trying to be 770 00:39:48,150 --> 00:39:45,880 disingenuous I'm telling you the truth 771 00:39:51,060 --> 00:39:48,160 I'm not the brightest guy in the world 772 00:39:53,190 --> 00:39:51,070 at all I'm reasonably smart but there 773 00:39:55,830 --> 00:39:53,200 are a lot of people that I've met and I 774 00:40:00,180 --> 00:39:55,840 know that a lot smarter than me why is 775 00:40:01,950 --> 00:40:00,190 it that other people didn't see this III 776 00:40:04,950 --> 00:40:01,960 just don't 777 00:40:06,720 --> 00:40:04,960 the only people at that time in 1362 778 00:40:10,470 --> 00:40:06,730 that had the money the means the 779 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:10,480 motivation there's nobody else and I 780 00:40:16,500 --> 00:40:13,450 just don't understand how I could be the 781 00:40:18,750 --> 00:40:16,510 only person at least in my world that I 782 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:18,760 interacted with they could see that and 783 00:40:25,170 --> 00:40:21,130 it just mystifies me to this day 784 00:40:26,900 --> 00:40:25,180 now you just mentioned yeah that that's 785 00:40:31,530 --> 00:40:26,910 actually a good place to start 786 00:40:37,050 --> 00:40:31,540 1362 I just mentioned 1492 so we can run 787 00:40:43,010 --> 00:40:37,060 a simple math right here 1362 we've got 788 00:40:45,210 --> 00:40:43,020 two different narratives two different 789 00:40:48,450 --> 00:40:45,220 experiences tonight that we're going to 790 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:48,460 weave together right it's very 791 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:51,610 interesting and for everybody out there 792 00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:54,370 you can just go to Scott Wolter answers 793 00:40:59,490 --> 00:40:57,130 dot blogspot in the links or overage 794 00:41:02,670 --> 00:40:59,500 immaturity accom and you can read all of 795 00:41:04,170 --> 00:41:02,680 Scott's information there some of what 796 00:41:06,720 --> 00:41:04,180 we're talking going to talk about 797 00:41:09,030 --> 00:41:06,730 tonight are his two latest articles that 798 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:09,040 were published I think one in the end of 799 00:41:13,349 --> 00:41:11,890 October and the one just last where a 800 00:41:15,989 --> 00:41:13,359 couple of weeks ago 801 00:41:17,099 --> 00:41:15,999 first week in November and that's what 802 00:41:20,430 --> 00:41:17,109 we're going to be doing tonight 803 00:41:24,509 --> 00:41:20,440 now 1362 let's start there why is that 804 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:24,519 date important well 1362 is the date 805 00:41:28,470 --> 00:41:26,650 that's carved on the rune stone the 806 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:28,480 Kensington rune stone that was found in 807 00:41:33,870 --> 00:41:31,450 1898 Swedish immigrant farmer clearing 808 00:41:36,450 --> 00:41:33,880 trees and preparation for farming on his 809 00:41:39,089 --> 00:41:36,460 property in in western Minnesota and he 810 00:41:42,539 --> 00:41:39,099 and his two oldest sons tipped over this 811 00:41:44,579 --> 00:41:42,549 thirty year old tree and tightly wrapped 812 00:41:47,069 --> 00:41:44,589 almost directly underneath it was this 813 00:41:49,799 --> 00:41:47,079 202 pound stone with a long inscription 814 00:41:50,940 --> 00:41:49,809 carved in runes called the Kensington 815 00:41:52,229 --> 00:41:50,950 rune stone that we now call the 816 00:41:56,249 --> 00:41:52,239 Kensington Runestone 817 00:41:58,950 --> 00:41:56,259 and it's a long inscription that is you 818 00:42:01,259 --> 00:41:58,960 know people have tried to decipher it 819 00:42:03,539 --> 00:42:01,269 because it doesn't fit the narrative of 820 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:03,549 what a rune stone should be in the 821 00:42:09,930 --> 00:42:06,249 academic community both in rhinology 822 00:42:11,430 --> 00:42:09,940 here in America and in Sweden and you 823 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:11,440 know after everything that I've been 824 00:42:15,359 --> 00:42:13,210 through with this thing I'm just going 825 00:42:18,420 --> 00:42:15,369 to give you a cute little phrase okay 826 00:42:20,729 --> 00:42:18,430 and this really sums up why the 827 00:42:23,309 --> 00:42:20,739 Kensington rune stone was not figured 828 00:42:26,039 --> 00:42:23,319 out by the scholars to this day you 829 00:42:27,479 --> 00:42:26,049 ready for this yes I love this I came up 830 00:42:30,690 --> 00:42:27,489 with this and it's one of the few things 831 00:42:33,390 --> 00:42:30,700 I think that actually really distilled 832 00:42:35,039 --> 00:42:33,400 it down to its basic essence the problem 833 00:42:39,650 --> 00:42:35,049 of the Kensington rune stone you ready 834 00:42:42,870 --> 00:42:39,660 ready for a hundred and twenty years 835 00:42:45,509 --> 00:42:42,880 scholars have been trying to tell the 836 00:42:49,769 --> 00:42:45,519 Kensington Runestone what it's supposed 837 00:42:55,370 --> 00:42:49,779 to be instead of letting the artifact 838 00:43:00,049 --> 00:42:55,380 tell them what it is I agree with that 839 00:43:03,029 --> 00:43:00,059 okay so what are they trying to say 840 00:43:07,859 --> 00:43:03,039 here's the problem what they're saying 841 00:43:10,710 --> 00:43:07,869 is it's a rune stone and the rune stones 842 00:43:12,930 --> 00:43:10,720 that we have here in Scandinavia have to 843 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:12,940 be this this this and this and if it 844 00:43:16,319 --> 00:43:14,890 doesn't have this this and this because 845 00:43:18,269 --> 00:43:16,329 all the ones that we've studied have 846 00:43:22,279 --> 00:43:18,279 this this and this right then it can't 847 00:43:24,630 --> 00:43:22,289 be a rune stone so it must be a fake 848 00:43:27,089 --> 00:43:24,640 that's what they that's basically what 849 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:27,099 they set and instead 850 00:43:33,620 --> 00:43:31,210 of doing what a true scientist does have 851 00:43:36,569 --> 00:43:33,630 to do is you start with a blank slate 852 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:36,579 okay you don't make any assumptions at 853 00:43:42,390 --> 00:43:39,130 all you just start documenting 854 00:43:46,229 --> 00:43:42,400 information oh it's got X number of 855 00:43:47,999 --> 00:43:46,239 runes it's got numbers here's another 856 00:43:50,579 --> 00:43:48,009 interesting thing you know the numbers 857 00:43:53,609 --> 00:43:50,589 on the Kensington Runestone they're 858 00:43:56,579 --> 00:43:53,619 called print attic numbers did you know 859 00:43:59,660 --> 00:43:56,589 that print attic numbers are Arabic in 860 00:44:04,170 --> 00:43:59,670 origin I did not which begs the question 861 00:44:06,390 --> 00:44:04,180 what the hell right Muslim why what the 862 00:44:08,450 --> 00:44:06,400 hell is a Muslim numbering system doing 863 00:44:11,279 --> 00:44:08,460 on an artifact found in North America 864 00:44:11,999 --> 00:44:11,289 who in their history interacted with 865 00:44:16,259 --> 00:44:12,009 Muslims 866 00:44:18,269 --> 00:44:16,269 oh the Knights Templar right interesting 867 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:18,279 right right well bat alone right there 868 00:44:24,059 --> 00:44:20,170 you've never heard anybody say that have 869 00:44:26,729 --> 00:44:24,069 you well and so the the thing is is the 870 00:44:28,620 --> 00:44:26,739 the suppressing of and I talk about this 871 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:28,630 every night on the show Scott the 872 00:44:34,410 --> 00:44:30,970 suppressing of this information is done 873 00:44:38,219 --> 00:44:34,420 for a reason I can't figure out why if 874 00:44:40,140 --> 00:44:38,229 they just it this isn't I would love to 875 00:44:43,229 --> 00:44:40,150 hear your answer for this if they just 876 00:44:47,099 --> 00:44:43,239 let the information out what does it 877 00:44:50,339 --> 00:44:47,109 really change especially now today in 878 00:44:52,499 --> 00:44:50,349 2018 going into 2019 what difference 879 00:44:56,430 --> 00:44:52,509 does this have to do with the past 880 00:44:59,569 --> 00:44:56,440 why continue to suppress history you 881 00:45:04,349 --> 00:44:59,579 want me to be totally idly honest I do 882 00:45:06,180 --> 00:45:04,359 well the reason is this is that once you 883 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:06,190 accept the Kensington Runestone as a 884 00:45:12,959 --> 00:45:10,210 genuine medieval artifact that goes back 885 00:45:16,559 --> 00:45:12,969 to the Knights Templar you trigger a 886 00:45:18,989 --> 00:45:16,569 series of dominoes that would end up 887 00:45:21,209 --> 00:45:18,999 going to put in convenient places for 888 00:45:24,989 --> 00:45:21,219 certain entities like the Roman Catholic 889 00:45:28,910 --> 00:45:24,999 Church for one it conveniently goes to 890 00:45:32,549 --> 00:45:28,920 places like the Tell P a tomb in Israel 891 00:45:35,130 --> 00:45:32,559 in Jerusalem you know the tapia to them 892 00:45:37,170 --> 00:45:35,140 I do we've talked about it yeah yeah we 893 00:45:39,589 --> 00:45:37,180 talked about that that's the place the 894 00:45:43,499 --> 00:45:39,599 church doesn't want to go do they know 895 00:45:45,329 --> 00:45:43,509 because this little thing about the 896 00:45:48,149 --> 00:45:45,339 resurrection of Jesus suddenly if you 897 00:45:53,370 --> 00:45:48,159 have physical remains of his body that's 898 00:45:55,739 --> 00:45:53,380 a problem right and and there okay now 899 00:45:57,929 --> 00:45:55,749 it's a huge problem they don't want to 900 00:45:59,729 --> 00:45:57,939 go there and they know that's one of the 901 00:46:02,009 --> 00:45:59,739 places that's going to go but it goes to 902 00:46:03,929 --> 00:46:02,019 a lot of other places so from a 903 00:46:07,049 --> 00:46:03,939 religious standpoint it's a huge problem 904 00:46:09,149 --> 00:46:07,059 from a from a political standpoint it's 905 00:46:11,039 --> 00:46:09,159 also a huge problem remember that little 906 00:46:14,249 --> 00:46:11,049 manifest destiny thing that we had going 907 00:46:17,669 --> 00:46:14,259 for a long time I know right yeah yeah I 908 00:46:20,189 --> 00:46:17,679 mean that's a problem too right and so 909 00:46:23,219 --> 00:46:20,199 all of a sudden we've got a land claim 910 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:23,229 that I don't believe in the early part 911 00:46:29,579 --> 00:46:26,650 of the 1820s century actually the late 912 00:46:31,979 --> 00:46:29,589 19th century when it was found that that 913 00:46:34,259 --> 00:46:31,989 people our government was still worrying 914 00:46:36,089 --> 00:46:34,269 about people making claim claims to this 915 00:46:37,620 --> 00:46:36,099 land there are many people that have 916 00:46:39,809 --> 00:46:37,630 made claims to this land you know 917 00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:39,819 there's Russian land claims on the 918 00:46:42,689 --> 00:46:41,890 western states that have been found on 919 00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:42,699 the west coast 920 00:46:49,259 --> 00:46:47,650 didn't know that well and so and and and 921 00:46:53,099 --> 00:46:49,269 that could be part of it I mean 922 00:46:56,549 --> 00:46:53,109 seriously that that you know Wisconsin 923 00:46:59,880 --> 00:46:56,559 all the way to Colorado from North 924 00:47:01,890 --> 00:46:59,890 Dakota all the way down to to Kansas 925 00:47:06,390 --> 00:47:01,900 could actually be called scanned a new 926 00:47:08,699 --> 00:47:06,400 Scandinavia right so that's right we got 927 00:47:12,390 --> 00:47:08,709 the we got the French land claims that 928 00:47:15,569 --> 00:47:12,400 you know came in the in the 1700s I mean 929 00:47:18,209 --> 00:47:15,579 it gets awful messy nobody if you really 930 00:47:20,459 --> 00:47:18,219 study it and you know we just don't need 931 00:47:23,069 --> 00:47:20,469 another land claim to muddy the waters 932 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:23,079 especially before Chris remember back 933 00:47:29,069 --> 00:47:26,650 during manifest destiny we had you know 934 00:47:31,140 --> 00:47:29,079 we basically set the table and said you 935 00:47:33,749 --> 00:47:31,150 know manifest destiny is two things one 936 00:47:35,489 --> 00:47:33,759 is the natives are savages and and not 937 00:47:38,549 --> 00:47:35,499 worthy of owning this land thereby 938 00:47:40,079 --> 00:47:38,559 justifying you know persecution killing 939 00:47:43,649 --> 00:47:40,089 them and taking their land that was part 940 00:47:45,659 --> 00:47:43,659 one part two was it was nobody else that 941 00:47:48,509 --> 00:47:45,669 came here before Chris so it's our 942 00:47:51,419 --> 00:47:48,519 sovereign god-given right to take this 943 00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:51,429 land right I mean it's nonsense when you 944 00:47:54,490 --> 00:47:52,610 look at it today 945 00:47:56,950 --> 00:47:54,500 but that was that's what it was all 946 00:47:59,260 --> 00:47:56,960 about and so any of these things that 947 00:48:01,150 --> 00:47:59,270 could potentially be problematic that 948 00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:01,160 there were other European cultures that 949 00:48:05,590 --> 00:48:03,170 came here or any other cultures that 950 00:48:06,910 --> 00:48:05,600 came here that's a problem 951 00:48:08,740 --> 00:48:06,920 so what's what do you do with it you 952 00:48:10,330 --> 00:48:08,750 don't sit there and try to argue it and 953 00:48:12,790 --> 00:48:10,340 look at the evidence and see if it's 954 00:48:16,720 --> 00:48:12,800 really no you just make it go away easy 955 00:48:20,050 --> 00:48:16,730 simple clean done gone fake done now 956 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:20,060 what we're gonna do here now that we've 957 00:48:24,070 --> 00:48:22,970 kind of laid this out and there's one 958 00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:24,080 other thing I just want to mention 959 00:48:27,670 --> 00:48:25,970 before we head to the break and I want 960 00:48:30,430 --> 00:48:27,680 to start - we've got to talk 961 00:48:32,890 --> 00:48:30,440 set this up with a with Jackson and and 962 00:48:35,290 --> 00:48:32,900 Donald and what happened and what the 963 00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:35,300 discovery was we'll set that up for 964 00:48:41,490 --> 00:48:38,570 after the break but before we get there 965 00:48:44,130 --> 00:48:41,500 there's one other thing that I think is 966 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:44,140 historically one of the biggest stories 967 00:48:50,530 --> 00:48:46,970 you know of all time which certainly is 968 00:48:52,900 --> 00:48:50,540 the hook tax the hook tax isn't just the 969 00:48:56,740 --> 00:48:52,910 Kensington Runestone the hook tax isn't 970 00:48:59,830 --> 00:48:56,750 just you know it isn't just it goes all 971 00:49:02,740 --> 00:48:59,840 the way back to the Middle East 972 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:02,750 it goes back to Jerusalem it the hook 973 00:49:06,850 --> 00:49:05,450 tax tends to be everywhere and it's 974 00:49:12,310 --> 00:49:06,860 certainly part of the story again 975 00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:12,320 tonight with these documents so the 976 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:14,410 hooked X is is a part of our history 977 00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:17,690 when is it going to be accepted I mean 978 00:49:22,270 --> 00:49:20,690 what it what is it gonna take for for 979 00:49:25,540 --> 00:49:22,280 everybody to start connecting the hooked 980 00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:25,550 X docked dots that are that surround 981 00:49:32,290 --> 00:49:28,490 this planet well okay what do you mean I 982 00:49:34,090 --> 00:49:32,300 think people are starting to do that and 983 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:34,100 this is this is really kind of a crazy 984 00:49:39,370 --> 00:49:37,010 thing that you bring this up because I 985 00:49:43,750 --> 00:49:39,380 actually own a trademark on the hook 986 00:49:46,780 --> 00:49:43,760 decks and I was advised to do that and I 987 00:49:49,030 --> 00:49:46,790 did it and I'm glad I did because you 988 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:49,040 know this is something that we coined 989 00:49:53,260 --> 00:49:51,290 many years ago when we were you know 990 00:49:55,690 --> 00:49:53,270 working on the rune stone and then we 991 00:49:58,810 --> 00:49:55,700 realized it was such a much much bigger 992 00:50:02,770 --> 00:49:58,820 thing and anyway so what's happening now 993 00:50:04,390 --> 00:50:02,780 is it's becoming it is becoming more out 994 00:50:06,010 --> 00:50:04,400 there I mean there was a woman that 995 00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:06,020 wrote a book here recently 996 00:50:10,030 --> 00:50:07,850 and it's called like the mystery of the 997 00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:10,040 hook decks and the cover of the book 998 00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:12,170 it's a novel and the cover of the book 999 00:50:16,510 --> 00:50:14,690 is like this dark brownish colored with 1000 00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:16,520 just a big hook deck symbol on it and 1001 00:50:20,530 --> 00:50:18,650 and I'm like oh my gosh I got a call 1002 00:50:22,570 --> 00:50:20,540 this you gotta tell this person there's 1003 00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:22,580 a trademark and she can't do that and 1004 00:50:26,500 --> 00:50:24,890 and I called her and she said oh my god 1005 00:50:28,570 --> 00:50:26,510 I had no idea I said oh that's fine I 1006 00:50:30,190 --> 00:50:28,580 thought that was the case and I went 1007 00:50:32,230 --> 00:50:30,200 through it with her well I just had 1008 00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:32,240 another person who's wrote a written a 1009 00:50:36,100 --> 00:50:33,770 book and in the description in this 1010 00:50:38,740 --> 00:50:36,110 catalog he uses the hook decks and it's 1011 00:50:39,220 --> 00:50:38,750 part of his book so I'm talking to him 1012 00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:39,230 right now 1013 00:50:44,170 --> 00:50:42,170 and what I want to do is is I want to be 1014 00:50:47,260 --> 00:50:44,180 careful of is that it doesn't become 1015 00:50:52,300 --> 00:50:47,270 something like a Kleenex right you know 1016 00:50:54,790 --> 00:50:52,310 tissues Kleenex kind and Scott Scott 1017 00:50:56,890 --> 00:50:54,800 Scott Scott yeah I got to ask you how 1018 00:50:59,859 --> 00:50:56,900 can you trademark a letter it's like 1019 00:51:01,570 --> 00:50:59,869 trademarking the letter it's not it's 1020 00:51:03,820 --> 00:51:01,580 not the symbol you can't trademark the 1021 00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:03,830 symbol but I can trademark the phrase 1022 00:51:07,450 --> 00:51:04,970 hook 1023 00:51:11,470 --> 00:51:07,460 oh you're trademarking the phrase the 1024 00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:11,480 hook x-ray so nice what happening is the 1025 00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:14,690 symbol and the phrase are becoming one 1026 00:51:20,830 --> 00:51:17,930 of the same right yeah it gets to be 1027 00:51:22,150 --> 00:51:20,840 like the Kleenex tissue thing and I'd be 1028 00:51:24,730 --> 00:51:22,160 honest with you I'm a little confused 1029 00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:24,740 because there's a part of me that wants 1030 00:51:29,140 --> 00:51:27,050 that to happen right but from a legal 1031 00:51:31,150 --> 00:51:29,150 standpoint I'm not supposed to let it 1032 00:51:33,609 --> 00:51:31,160 happen so I'm in this quadrant what I'm 1033 00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:33,619 gonna do and I don't want to discourage 1034 00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:36,650 people you know on one hand but I also 1035 00:51:41,349 --> 00:51:39,530 want to protect the brand name so I'm 1036 00:51:45,490 --> 00:51:41,359 not sure I guess the answer to your 1037 00:51:47,740 --> 00:51:45,500 question is it's being accepted it has 1038 00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:47,750 to be accepted because it's it's part of 1039 00:51:53,349 --> 00:51:50,450 the real history and the importance of 1040 00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:53,359 it touches on some of the most important 1041 00:52:00,960 --> 00:51:56,090 historical figures in the history of 1042 00:52:04,359 --> 00:52:00,970 this world so you cannot and you know 1043 00:52:07,510 --> 00:52:04,369 bigger than that you created the term 1044 00:52:10,330 --> 00:52:07,520 hook tax before you nobody used that 1045 00:52:13,450 --> 00:52:10,340 term no I've never seen it anywhere 1046 00:52:15,250 --> 00:52:13,460 prior and I just looked at it nice you 1047 00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:15,260 know when we were doing our research and 1048 00:52:18,820 --> 00:52:17,090 talking about the different routes 1049 00:52:20,350 --> 00:52:18,830 we didn't have a name for that one it 1050 00:52:21,940 --> 00:52:20,360 was it's it's being used for the letter 1051 00:52:24,550 --> 00:52:21,950 A and I just said well looks like I look 1052 00:52:26,050 --> 00:52:24,560 Dex and we just caught on and we just 1053 00:52:26,860 --> 00:52:26,060 started using it and that's how it 1054 00:52:29,230 --> 00:52:26,870 started 1055 00:52:39,190 --> 00:52:29,240 somebody just tweeted the hook taxes now 1056 00:52:40,870 --> 00:52:39,200 trademarked by the Masons there's 1057 00:52:42,430 --> 00:52:40,880 there's so much trade marking 1058 00:52:46,300 --> 00:52:42,440 scuttlebutt going on in this community 1059 00:52:51,940 --> 00:52:46,310 right now and it's always good to have 1060 00:52:54,460 --> 00:52:51,950 clarification so okay now but yes you 1061 00:52:57,460 --> 00:52:54,470 know I see it everywhere and leading up 1062 00:52:58,690 --> 00:52:57,470 to the show tonight I was watching I 1063 00:53:00,580 --> 00:52:58,700 think it was on Twitter yesterday it 1064 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:00,590 might have been today you know somebody 1065 00:53:06,970 --> 00:53:04,370 was had a photograph of something in I 1066 00:53:08,650 --> 00:53:06,980 mean it might have been New York and 1067 00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:08,660 somebody's standing there with with the 1068 00:53:14,860 --> 00:53:12,170 necks in front of them and yes in 1069 00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:14,870 Andrews you saw the outside yes it hurt 1070 00:53:23,620 --> 00:53:17,930 in New York yeah now see and that's what 1071 00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:23,630 you have caused people to do right great 1072 00:53:29,230 --> 00:53:27,170 yes and it's I see it everywhere now 1073 00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:29,240 ain't any time I see any type of ancient 1074 00:53:35,290 --> 00:53:32,890 writing I'm looking for a hook taxes 1075 00:53:37,420 --> 00:53:35,300 well you know what I think this is a 1076 00:53:40,060 --> 00:53:37,430 good thing that people I'll tell you 1077 00:53:41,740 --> 00:53:40,070 what what happens is you start looking 1078 00:53:44,020 --> 00:53:41,750 for something that you know like the 1079 00:53:45,730 --> 00:53:44,030 hooked X for example but what happens is 1080 00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:45,740 you start to see other things you're 1081 00:53:49,240 --> 00:53:48,050 paying more attention to things that you 1082 00:53:51,460 --> 00:53:49,250 probably wouldn't have paid as close 1083 00:53:54,250 --> 00:53:51,470 attention to before and you start to see 1084 00:53:55,990 --> 00:53:54,260 other things so if that's what it's 1085 00:53:57,610 --> 00:53:56,000 making people do I think it's wonderful 1086 00:53:59,140 --> 00:53:57,620 okay now we're going to head towards a 1087 00:54:01,900 --> 00:53:59,150 break when we come back we'll start to 1088 00:54:04,750 --> 00:54:01,910 set this up with Donald roux and dr. 1089 00:54:08,350 --> 00:54:04,760 Jackson but before we get there I just 1090 00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:08,360 wanted to give you a little opportunity 1091 00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:11,210 your I hope you can talk about it you 1092 00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:13,850 are taping you are in production for a 1093 00:54:21,220 --> 00:54:17,690 new series I can neither confirm nor 1094 00:54:26,070 --> 00:54:21,230 deny and I love it what what can you 1095 00:54:30,470 --> 00:54:28,600 let's just say that we are working 1096 00:54:35,359 --> 00:54:30,480 really hard on something 1097 00:54:39,050 --> 00:54:35,369 and I'm hearing words like action and 1098 00:54:48,290 --> 00:54:39,060 cut that's all I'll say is it is it in 1099 00:54:49,010 --> 00:54:48,300 the format because I know it's gonna be 1100 00:54:51,620 --> 00:54:49,020 great 1101 00:54:52,940 --> 00:54:51,630 okay do you have just a little flavor 1102 00:54:58,460 --> 00:54:52,950 give me a little some do you have a 1103 00:55:00,589 --> 00:54:58,470 partner in crime you know what i I don't 1104 00:55:06,079 --> 00:55:00,599 work well in partnerships I've come to 1105 00:55:09,349 --> 00:55:06,089 realize that I I just I know I just know 1106 00:55:11,780 --> 00:55:09,359 okay so I work alone okay so it is in 1107 00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:11,790 the format of you going out there 1108 00:55:18,140 --> 00:55:15,210 breaking doors down if something like 1109 00:55:22,329 --> 00:55:18,150 that if something like that were an 1110 00:55:27,079 --> 00:55:25,190 any door that didn't make didn't open 1111 00:55:27,470 --> 00:55:27,089 we'd find a way to get it open put it 1112 00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:27,480 that way 1113 00:55:36,230 --> 00:55:31,130 is there any scuba diving or spelunking 1114 00:55:37,130 --> 00:55:36,240 well you know I love to do both is there 1115 00:55:43,309 --> 00:55:37,140 football 1116 00:55:46,130 --> 00:55:43,319 Scott I know you and it was I had a 1117 00:55:49,579 --> 00:55:46,140 great time I'm playing with my son in a 1118 00:55:52,190 --> 00:55:49,589 flag football league and it's it's a 1119 00:55:54,559 --> 00:55:52,200 blast I get to throw passes to my son 1120 00:55:57,140 --> 00:55:54,569 and yell and scream at him and hug him 1121 00:55:59,839 --> 00:55:57,150 and tell him great UI it's just I 1122 00:56:02,030 --> 00:55:59,849 I've never never had more fun in my life 1123 00:56:06,620 --> 00:56:02,040 okay I'm not gonna let you off the hook 1124 00:56:12,859 --> 00:56:06,630 Dax is so are we looking at 1125 00:56:17,420 --> 00:56:12,869 2019 release well I mean almost done so 1126 00:56:22,190 --> 00:56:17,430 yeah so it's not eminent right it's not 1127 00:56:25,099 --> 00:56:22,200 going to be a January premiere let me 1128 00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:25,109 just say this I I've learned in this 1129 00:56:29,690 --> 00:56:27,210 business that you never count on 1130 00:56:32,569 --> 00:56:29,700 anything that's right because you know 1131 00:56:36,620 --> 00:56:32,579 the last time I did my own show 1132 00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:36,630 I was called America on earth and I was 1133 00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:39,690 having a lot of fun the show was doing 1134 00:56:43,859 --> 00:56:41,170 really well 1135 00:56:46,829 --> 00:56:43,869 and you know things were trending up the 1136 00:56:50,130 --> 00:56:46,839 ratings were rising and all of a sudden 1137 00:56:52,740 --> 00:56:50,140 they sold the channel and we were out 1138 00:56:55,230 --> 00:56:52,750 the door it was done so I've learned 1139 00:56:57,210 --> 00:56:55,240 never to take anything for granted and 1140 00:56:59,279 --> 00:56:57,220 to be grateful for all the good things 1141 00:57:02,099 --> 00:56:59,289 that you do have because you never know 1142 00:57:04,559 --> 00:57:02,109 what it can be taken away from you and I 1143 00:57:07,140 --> 00:57:04,569 would you know if if another opportunity 1144 00:57:12,150 --> 00:57:07,150 comes along there's nothing that I would 1145 00:57:15,779 --> 00:57:12,160 do to put it in jeopardy and all I can 1146 00:57:18,839 --> 00:57:15,789 say is is that I'm very excited about 1147 00:57:21,180 --> 00:57:18,849 the near future there's a lot of 1148 00:57:23,250 --> 00:57:21,190 wonderful things that are going on and I 1149 00:57:24,930 --> 00:57:23,260 have to say what we're about to talk 1150 00:57:28,730 --> 00:57:24,940 about on the other side of the break to 1151 00:57:31,940 --> 00:57:28,740 me is probably the most is the greatest 1152 00:57:34,470 --> 00:57:31,950 stories I've ever heard in my life 1153 00:57:37,380 --> 00:57:34,480 admittedly biased but if you like the 1154 00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:37,390 Templars you better hang on and listen 1155 00:57:42,329 --> 00:57:39,130 to the rest of this show when we come 1156 00:57:45,599 --> 00:57:42,339 back we are going to discuss Donald rude 1157 00:57:49,049 --> 00:57:45,609 dr. Jackson and Hunter mountain that's 1158 00:57:50,940 --> 00:57:49,059 right it's an incredible story our guest 1159 00:57:53,519 --> 00:57:50,950 tonight Scott Wolter I'm your host Jimmy 1160 00:57:55,890 --> 00:57:53,529 church this is fade to black on the 1161 00:57:57,930 --> 00:57:55,900 GameChanger network in kg ra the planet 1162 00:57:59,789 --> 00:57:57,940 you can follow me on twitter @ JT radio 1163 00:58:02,039 --> 00:57:59,799 you can also follow Scott at Scott 1164 00:58:02,609 --> 00:58:02,049 Wolter I'll be right back after this 1165 00:58:04,170 --> 00:58:02,619 short break 1166 00:58:04,890 --> 00:58:04,180 more with Scott right after this stay 1167 00:58:21,699 --> 00:58:04,900 with us 1168 00:58:25,699 --> 00:58:23,569 this is fade to black 1169 00:58:29,390 --> 00:58:25,709 with Jimmy Church on the game changer 1170 00:58:31,179 --> 00:58:29,400 radio network and kgr a the global radio 1171 00:58:34,489 --> 00:58:31,189 alliance 1172 00:58:37,819 --> 00:58:34,499 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01:03:01,600 conscious life Expo and you're listening 1270 01:03:06,390 --> 01:03:04,150 to fade to black with Jimmy Church who 1271 01:03:11,150 --> 01:03:06,400 holds the lucky pony record for the best 1272 01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:11,160 astrological chart since 1963 true story 1273 01:03:15,270 --> 01:03:13,570 this is Micah Hanks of the graylien 1274 01:03:17,580 --> 01:03:15,280 report and you're listening to Jimmy 1275 01:03:18,620 --> 01:03:17,590 church on fade to black across the globe 1276 01:03:21,109 --> 01:03:18,630 on the GameChanger 1277 01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:21,119 Radio Network and the one and only kgr a 1278 01:03:26,850 --> 01:03:22,890 radio the planet 1279 01:03:27,170 --> 01:03:26,860 [Music] 1280 01:03:38,260 --> 01:03:27,180 [Applause] 1281 01:03:44,580 --> 01:03:42,510 [Music] 1282 01:03:45,900 --> 01:03:44,590 all right welcome back fade to black I'm 1283 01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:45,910 you'll see me church tonight Scott 1284 01:03:51,990 --> 01:03:49,450 Walters back with us and we are 1285 01:03:54,420 --> 01:03:52,000 literally talking about the lost Templar 1286 01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:54,430 journals of Prince Henry Sinclair and 1287 01:04:00,810 --> 01:03:56,970 we're going to start this journey off 1288 01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:00,820 right now with this part of the story 1289 01:04:04,859 --> 01:04:02,290 we've got two things that we're gonna 1290 01:04:08,790 --> 01:04:04,869 weed together tonight but Scott it's 1291 01:04:13,740 --> 01:04:08,800 donal drew and and dr. Jackson and and 1292 01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:13,750 Hunter mountain pretty amazing this 1293 01:04:23,010 --> 01:04:19,450 kicks off at 1969 right Scott are you 1294 01:04:26,010 --> 01:04:23,020 there oh did we lose Scott oh man 1295 01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:26,020 okay hold on for a second literally as I 1296 01:04:32,550 --> 01:04:30,250 said let's go Scott disappeared so just 1297 01:04:36,450 --> 01:04:32,560 give me a second well we'll have scout 1298 01:04:38,940 --> 01:04:36,460 and that was it you were me no I was me 1299 01:04:43,230 --> 01:04:38,950 I pushed a button and all of a sudden a 1300 01:04:48,210 --> 01:04:43,240 you were gone I literally as I asked the 1301 01:04:51,450 --> 01:04:48,220 question okay so this this with with 1302 01:04:56,250 --> 01:04:51,460 Donald and dr. Jackson this story 1303 01:04:57,960 --> 01:04:56,260 actually starts in 1969 so let's let's 1304 01:05:03,080 --> 01:04:57,970 go to the point of origin of the story 1305 01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:03,090 first okay actually it was 1968 and a 1306 01:05:12,330 --> 01:05:07,210 bunch of guys 1968 pretty sure why do 1307 01:05:14,849 --> 01:05:12,340 you always correct me gotta be I got 1308 01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:14,859 these things in my head and I'm sorry 1309 01:05:20,790 --> 01:05:17,170 it's a bad habit I have but it was 1968 1310 01:05:22,830 --> 01:05:20,800 anyway okay so you've got these a group 1311 01:05:26,730 --> 01:05:22,840 of guys that were working for an agency 1312 01:05:30,990 --> 01:05:26,740 that did things for the government and 1313 01:05:33,180 --> 01:05:31,000 for private entities and stuff we don't 1314 01:05:37,290 --> 01:05:33,190 hear about I guess the way Don says it 1315 01:05:39,450 --> 01:05:37,300 say we used to do things with your tax 1316 01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:39,460 dollars is the way he would put it there 1317 01:05:45,510 --> 01:05:41,890 anyway and and this is you know this is 1318 01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:45,520 during the the Vietnam War era and you 1319 01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:48,490 know we did this is kind of a wild time 1320 01:05:53,099 --> 01:05:50,890 I mean you know there was you know the 1321 01:05:55,980 --> 01:05:53,109 race riots and they were assassinations 1322 01:05:56,310 --> 01:05:55,990 and you know the Woodstock and I mean it 1323 01:06:01,080 --> 01:05:56,320 was 1324 01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:01,090 kid growing up I barely remember it but 1325 01:06:05,070 --> 01:06:03,490 these guys were in their early 20s and 1326 01:06:08,750 --> 01:06:05,080 they were adventures and they decided to 1327 01:06:12,540 --> 01:06:08,760 go scuba diving in the Hudson River and 1328 01:06:16,410 --> 01:06:12,550 Don rue was one of the guys and and he 1329 01:06:19,710 --> 01:06:16,420 happened to notice these two wooden 1330 01:06:22,980 --> 01:06:19,720 boxes that had round balls on top which 1331 01:06:25,530 --> 01:06:22,990 turned out to be decorative ornaments 1332 01:06:28,460 --> 01:06:25,540 that were used to be in the flower 1333 01:06:31,890 --> 01:06:28,470 gardens of Abbe Bannerman Island where 1334 01:06:34,290 --> 01:06:31,900 the guy that the Frances Bannerman used 1335 01:06:36,930 --> 01:06:34,300 to deal in a munitions during the Civil 1336 01:06:38,430 --> 01:06:36,940 War and then his son dealt going into 1337 01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:38,440 World War one 1338 01:06:42,660 --> 01:06:41,050 and there were munitions stored on the 1339 01:06:44,220 --> 01:06:42,670 island and they blew up and that's how 1340 01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:44,230 these things ended up in the water I 1341 01:06:49,020 --> 01:06:46,570 mean this is this is documented but in 1342 01:06:50,820 --> 01:06:49,030 any case he found these bulbs and he 1343 01:06:54,690 --> 01:06:50,830 knew that one of his other buddies that 1344 01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:54,700 was with him dr. bill Jackson his wife 1345 01:06:58,170 --> 01:06:56,530 was a gardener and he said well maybe 1346 01:07:01,080 --> 01:06:58,180 your wife will want these so he gave him 1347 01:07:03,450 --> 01:07:01,090 to bill well bill took him home and his 1348 01:07:05,850 --> 01:07:03,460 young son who mark who was five years 1349 01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:05,860 old at the time was carrying around one 1350 01:07:12,380 --> 01:07:09,250 of these square decorative tops of these 1351 01:07:14,460 --> 01:07:12,390 things from the garden he dropped it and 1352 01:07:16,110 --> 01:07:14,470 there was something inside of it there 1353 01:07:19,260 --> 01:07:16,120 was a couple of things inside and it was 1354 01:07:22,260 --> 01:07:19,270 there was this brass seal and there was 1355 01:07:24,420 --> 01:07:22,270 a little canister a little tube that 1356 01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:24,430 actually was sealed with beeswax and 1357 01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:27,010 clay and inside of it were a couple of 1358 01:07:34,830 --> 01:07:31,810 parchments and to make a long story 1359 01:07:36,540 --> 01:07:34,840 short what was inside the brass seal 1360 01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:36,550 were some little metal plates that had 1361 01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:38,770 edgings on them and one of the things 1362 01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:41,530 that was on one of these plates was the 1363 01:07:50,190 --> 01:07:46,570 word aunty Ora and you know bill found 1364 01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:50,200 this thing and he started to investigate 1365 01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:52,570 what it was I mean these guys were very 1366 01:07:58,560 --> 01:07:54,730 smart they were very inquisitive they 1367 01:08:01,260 --> 01:07:58,570 all had special skills you know Don was 1368 01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:01,270 a lock picker and had other skills with 1369 01:08:07,290 --> 01:08:04,450 explosives and these guys did stuff that 1370 01:08:10,849 --> 01:08:07,300 you don't normally see people put on 1371 01:08:13,050 --> 01:08:10,859 their resumes as their vocations anyway 1372 01:08:18,269 --> 01:08:13,060 another one of their colleagues a guy 1373 01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:18,279 named Dan Spartan had his father had 1374 01:08:23,430 --> 01:08:20,770 fought World War two and had a colleague 1375 01:08:27,660 --> 01:08:23,440 who worked for the French Resistance in 1376 01:08:30,209 --> 01:08:27,670 France and after the war this guy sold 1377 01:08:32,070 --> 01:08:30,219 rare books so Dan Spartan suggested to 1378 01:08:34,650 --> 01:08:32,080 bill well if you want to try to figure 1379 01:08:36,930 --> 01:08:34,660 out what these strange words and symbols 1380 01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:36,940 are that are carved on this brass seal 1381 01:08:42,690 --> 01:08:39,130 and on these parchments that you got 1382 01:08:44,970 --> 01:08:42,700 maybe this guy in France who's a rare 1383 01:08:47,729 --> 01:08:44,980 book dealer can help you so book so 1384 01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:47,739 Jackson goes over to France he visits 1385 01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:49,210 with this guy and he bought three things 1386 01:08:55,170 --> 01:08:52,690 one was illuminated Bible for his wife 1387 01:08:57,570 --> 01:08:55,180 who's an Irish Catholic the second one 1388 01:09:00,499 --> 01:08:57,580 was a book about the constitution of hon 1389 01:09:04,499 --> 01:09:00,509 aureus that had some text in there 1390 01:09:06,269 --> 01:09:04,509 information about Stieb inscript Sieben 1391 01:09:08,459 --> 01:09:06,279 script was the type of script that was 1392 01:09:11,550 --> 01:09:08,469 etched on the outside and on the inside 1393 01:09:14,370 --> 01:09:11,560 of that brass seal and on these two 1394 01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:14,380 parchments the third document he bought 1395 01:09:22,890 --> 01:09:18,810 was a book that was written in 1718 1396 01:09:26,729 --> 01:09:22,900 about Native American words that appear 1397 01:09:30,510 --> 01:09:26,739 in European languages one of the words 1398 01:09:33,209 --> 01:09:30,520 was auntie Ora in this book and that's 1399 01:09:36,630 --> 01:09:33,219 why he bought it the reference to the 1400 01:09:39,930 --> 01:09:36,640 word was a document called a year we 1401 01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:39,940 remember well that document is the 1402 01:09:44,610 --> 01:09:42,489 Cremona document okay and how this whole 1403 01:09:50,249 --> 01:09:44,620 thing came about I know that's detailed 1404 01:09:52,349 --> 01:09:50,259 no no no no no okay I'm going to I can 1405 01:09:55,590 --> 01:09:52,359 post the picture of the brass seal right 1406 01:10:01,320 --> 01:09:55,600 yep okay there goes that's up in Twitter 1407 01:10:03,090 --> 01:10:01,330 right now and so you see the script on 1408 01:10:05,100 --> 01:10:03,100 it I'm actually gonna ask you a couple 1409 01:10:08,660 --> 01:10:05,110 of questions about this right now for 1410 01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:08,670 everybody how big is this brass seal 1411 01:10:13,650 --> 01:10:11,410 it's just it's about the size of a 1412 01:10:16,380 --> 01:10:13,660 hockey puck it's a little bit thicker 1413 01:10:20,700 --> 01:10:16,390 okay it's almost exactly the size of a 1414 01:10:23,810 --> 01:10:20,710 hockey puck now and the script that 1415 01:10:27,319 --> 01:10:23,820 you're talking about is clearly visible 1416 01:10:29,359 --> 01:10:27,329 top half of this image good and that's 1417 01:10:32,510 --> 01:10:29,369 Steven script and the people google 1418 01:10:34,700 --> 01:10:32,520 Sieben you'll see that it's a a one to 1419 01:10:36,919 --> 01:10:34,710 one substitution of the symbol for a 1420 01:10:39,140 --> 01:10:36,929 letter there's a Theban alphabet and 1421 01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:39,150 what happened is once he got a hold of 1422 01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:41,250 this he figured now remember this is 1423 01:10:47,510 --> 01:10:44,250 this is the late 60s right we didn't 1424 01:10:49,459 --> 01:10:47,520 have the internet then so I mean just 1425 01:10:51,859 --> 01:10:49,469 imagine the difficulty of finding 1426 01:10:53,839 --> 01:10:51,869 something like this but he was able to 1427 01:10:56,569 --> 01:10:53,849 find it some some references to the 1428 01:11:00,919 --> 01:10:56,579 Steven language and that text it's on on 1429 01:11:05,030 --> 01:11:00,929 the seal what it says is to open press 1430 01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:05,040 the back center peg I mean that's 1431 01:11:08,959 --> 01:11:07,050 basically what it says it tells you how 1432 01:11:11,660 --> 01:11:08,969 to open it right what you have you have 1433 01:11:15,709 --> 01:11:11,670 to decode the Theban and that's how we 1434 01:11:22,010 --> 01:11:15,719 got into it but yeah so that okay so 1435 01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:22,020 okay so they they find this and you come 1436 01:11:30,530 --> 01:11:25,050 into the picture now okay so dr. Jackson 1437 01:11:33,589 --> 01:11:30,540 and and Don rue they from 1968 on now 1438 01:11:36,620 --> 01:11:33,599 they've got a quest right they have got 1439 01:11:39,169 --> 01:11:36,630 the ultimate things no no wait wait wait 1440 01:11:41,780 --> 01:11:39,179 back up a sec it's not they this is 1441 01:11:46,069 --> 01:11:41,790 Jackson steel over I didn't even know 1442 01:11:49,189 --> 01:11:46,079 about the Cremona document until after 1443 01:11:52,069 --> 01:11:49,199 his friend died in 2000 I mean this 1444 01:11:53,359 --> 01:11:52,079 story is so convoluted Jackson was 1445 01:11:56,270 --> 01:11:53,369 working on these archaeological 1446 01:11:57,950 --> 01:11:56,280 mysteries is what Don always thought he 1447 01:12:00,770 --> 01:11:57,960 never told them about the Cremona 1448 01:12:03,770 --> 01:12:00,780 document that that he eventually would 1449 01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:03,780 would buy and the way he was able to buy 1450 01:12:08,930 --> 01:12:05,730 it is a long story and it's amazing how 1451 01:12:11,839 --> 01:12:08,940 he did it but once he got it he then 1452 01:12:15,410 --> 01:12:11,849 went to a guy by the name of Barry fell 1453 01:12:17,510 --> 01:12:15,420 have you ever heard of Barry fell yes he 1454 01:12:21,709 --> 01:12:17,520 wrote he wrote that groundbreaking book 1455 01:12:24,709 --> 01:12:21,719 America BC back in 1976 this was before 1456 01:12:27,530 --> 01:12:24,719 that because when Jackson was trying to 1457 01:12:29,390 --> 01:12:27,540 figure out the script one of the things 1458 01:12:32,839 --> 01:12:29,400 he did he eventually found it by going 1459 01:12:35,660 --> 01:12:32,849 to this guy book dealer in in France but 1460 01:12:37,870 --> 01:12:35,670 he also went to Harvard and met with 1461 01:12:41,180 --> 01:12:37,880 Barry fell and said can you help me 1462 01:12:45,860 --> 01:12:41,190 and and then when he bought the document 1463 01:12:48,110 --> 01:12:45,870 in 1971 in Italy he bought it from one 1464 01:12:52,100 --> 01:12:48,120 of the descendants of the author of that 1465 01:12:53,990 --> 01:12:52,110 book that had the word on tiara in it he 1466 01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:54,000 bought it if he looked at it at the 1467 01:12:58,670 --> 01:12:56,370 Vatican and then he bought it in a hotel 1468 01:13:01,580 --> 01:12:58,680 room after that now he's got the 1469 01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:01,590 document a year we we remember and he 1470 01:13:06,950 --> 01:13:04,530 showed it to Barry fell in 1971 Barry 1471 01:13:08,330 --> 01:13:06,960 fell with nuts and he said oh my god you 1472 01:13:11,210 --> 01:13:08,340 realize what you've got here this is 1473 01:13:13,670 --> 01:13:11,220 this is the story of the debtors coming 1474 01:13:15,440 --> 01:13:13,680 over in the 12th century and Barry felt 1475 01:13:20,390 --> 01:13:15,450 took the document and he wouldn't give 1476 01:13:24,110 --> 01:13:20,400 it back to Jackson and so 1968 which 1477 01:13:27,620 --> 01:13:24,120 started the journey for Jackson he he 1478 01:13:29,620 --> 01:13:27,630 gets this open inside of it are these 1479 01:13:33,140 --> 01:13:29,630 artifacts that you're talking about 1480 01:13:37,630 --> 01:13:33,150 metal inserts yep right and and this 1481 01:13:41,780 --> 01:13:37,640 leads him to Italy where he tracks them 1482 01:13:44,390 --> 01:13:41,790 to France or to Italy no to France first 1483 01:13:46,670 --> 01:13:44,400 where he got he got the he got the book 1484 01:13:49,820 --> 01:13:46,680 that had the word auntie or the 1485 01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:49,830 reference for that word criterium is 1486 01:13:55,010 --> 01:13:52,050 what they called North America back then 1487 01:13:57,110 --> 01:13:55,020 right back in the Templars time and 1488 01:13:59,300 --> 01:13:57,120 actually going back even farther than 1489 01:14:02,990 --> 01:13:59,310 that probably to the first century they 1490 01:14:05,930 --> 01:14:03,000 called North America in Europe on Theora 1491 01:14:08,570 --> 01:14:05,940 now in reference for that word was the 1492 01:14:11,780 --> 01:14:08,580 Cremona document which may be not in 1493 01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:11,790 Italy in 1971 three years later right so 1494 01:14:20,330 --> 01:14:16,050 that led him to Italy and now this this 1495 01:14:23,090 --> 01:14:20,340 is where for me the the story gets even 1496 01:14:26,510 --> 01:14:23,100 crazier well because the Vatican is now 1497 01:14:28,910 --> 01:14:26,520 involved the Vatican is involved in this 1498 01:14:30,590 --> 01:14:28,920 story but not in the way they were let 1499 01:14:33,650 --> 01:14:30,600 me just tell you what happened the guy 1500 01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:33,660 that had the document was a descendant 1501 01:14:38,330 --> 01:14:35,610 of one of the authors of that pamphlet 1502 01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:38,340 that Jackson use that referenced the 1503 01:14:44,470 --> 01:14:40,530 Cremona document his name was Gustavo 1504 01:14:47,750 --> 01:14:44,480 benvenuto benvenuto was about to donate 1505 01:14:50,719 --> 01:14:47,760 that book along with some other other 1506 01:14:53,899 --> 01:14:50,729 books that the family had to the Vatican 1507 01:14:55,850 --> 01:14:53,909 before he was able to do that Jackson 1508 01:14:58,939 --> 01:14:55,860 met with him and said hey can I look at 1509 01:15:03,319 --> 01:14:58,949 this they looked at it in the Vatican 1510 01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:03,329 and he said well instead of giving it to 1511 01:15:07,939 --> 01:15:06,090 him he said I'll buy it from you so he 1512 01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:07,949 ended up buying it from him for I think 1513 01:15:13,819 --> 01:15:11,610 it was 325 lira and then they went back 1514 01:15:15,140 --> 01:15:13,829 to his hotel room benvenuto agreed he 1515 01:15:16,879 --> 01:15:15,150 went to the hotel room he gave him the 1516 01:15:19,489 --> 01:15:16,889 money and he bought the document but 1517 01:15:25,549 --> 01:15:19,499 that's how close it came to ending up in 1518 01:15:29,779 --> 01:15:25,559 the Vatican the okay so let's continue 1519 01:15:34,790 --> 01:15:29,789 because this is again it gets it gets 1520 01:15:37,129 --> 01:15:34,800 very crazy okay he takes it takes the 1521 01:15:40,310 --> 01:15:37,139 book and he brings it back and he's now 1522 01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:40,320 in it the whole book is all in FIBA so 1523 01:15:45,469 --> 01:15:42,090 he's got to try to decode it 1524 01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:45,479 right so he goes to Harvard to berry 1525 01:15:49,370 --> 01:15:47,130 fell this guy's an expert in ancient 1526 01:15:51,649 --> 01:15:49,380 languages right and he's the guy that 1527 01:15:53,359 --> 01:15:51,659 that would eventually write it now now 1528 01:15:55,819 --> 01:15:53,369 what's really crazy and it's probably 1529 01:15:57,319 --> 01:15:55,829 gonna upset a few people but I'm just 1530 01:16:00,229 --> 01:15:57,329 gonna tell you the story of what 1531 01:16:03,199 --> 01:16:00,239 happened I'm not passing judgment but 1532 01:16:05,330 --> 01:16:03,209 Berry fell went crazy over this thing he 1533 01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:05,340 wanted to use the Cremona document and 1534 01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:08,489 the story in his book America BC and 1535 01:16:13,310 --> 01:16:11,010 Bill Jackson said no that thing belongs 1536 01:16:16,759 --> 01:16:13,320 to me I'm gonna write about it I want it 1537 01:16:19,189 --> 01:16:16,769 back and there was a lawsuit 1538 01:16:22,310 --> 01:16:19,199 there was actually a lawsuit filed we 1539 01:16:24,319 --> 01:16:22,320 haven't been able to find the judgment 1540 01:16:26,149 --> 01:16:24,329 we actually had a David Brody a friend 1541 01:16:29,839 --> 01:16:26,159 of ours who's a lawyer try to find the 1542 01:16:31,459 --> 01:16:29,849 guy the record of that case but he said 1543 01:16:33,830 --> 01:16:31,469 it's not surprising that they can't find 1544 01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:33,840 it but in any case he finally got it 1545 01:16:38,750 --> 01:16:36,690 back from him before he could publish it 1546 01:16:41,299 --> 01:16:38,760 in his book that the story of the 1547 01:16:43,310 --> 01:16:41,309 Cremona document it Barry felid had his 1548 01:16:47,750 --> 01:16:43,320 way would have been in that book America 1549 01:16:50,839 --> 01:16:47,760 BC how does let's start filling in the 1550 01:16:55,899 --> 01:16:50,849 blanks here how do you go from that and 1551 01:16:59,779 --> 01:16:55,909 the book and the Theban text to a 1552 01:17:01,819 --> 01:16:59,789 shipwreck in in Newfoundland I'm okay 1553 01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:01,829 well the shipwreck in New Zealand this 1554 01:17:06,210 --> 01:17:03,850 is chronicled right there and in the 1555 01:17:09,180 --> 01:17:06,220 the document he tells the story in fact 1556 01:17:12,060 --> 01:17:09,190 they have very detailed I can tell you 1557 01:17:14,070 --> 01:17:12,070 this there's things that are not of 1558 01:17:18,870 --> 01:17:14,080 Don's book that we purposely didn't 1559 01:17:22,170 --> 01:17:18,880 publish Don and John here's what 1560 01:17:25,170 --> 01:17:22,180 happened in 1971 the first thing that 1561 01:17:27,060 --> 01:17:25,180 Jackson did once he got the translated 1562 01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:27,070 version of the book which he basically 1563 01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:29,650 did through his sources connected with 1564 01:17:35,190 --> 01:17:31,330 Spartan enterprises he didn't get any 1565 01:17:36,930 --> 01:17:35,200 help from from Barry fell first thing he 1566 01:17:40,050 --> 01:17:36,940 did was say Don I want to go up to 1567 01:17:42,300 --> 01:17:40,060 Newfoundland and go scuba diving well 1568 01:17:45,990 --> 01:17:42,310 Don never married him you know never was 1569 01:17:47,580 --> 01:17:46,000 never married and he was he and and I 1570 01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:47,590 asked I asked Tom this question just 1571 01:17:51,570 --> 01:17:50,050 last year's had done why the hell did he 1572 01:17:53,490 --> 01:17:51,580 leave all the stuff to you why not any 1573 01:17:56,100 --> 01:17:53,500 of the other guys that I've heard so 1574 01:17:58,140 --> 01:17:56,110 much about he said the reason is is 1575 01:17:59,940 --> 01:17:58,150 because I was the one that would always 1576 01:18:04,040 --> 01:17:59,950 go on his archeological adventures 1577 01:18:07,170 --> 01:18:04,050 because I could go and Jackson actually 1578 01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:07,180 saved Don's life on the Hudson River 1579 01:18:11,100 --> 01:18:09,250 during those times in the 60s when they 1580 01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:11,110 were scuba diving and I don't know I 1581 01:18:15,480 --> 01:18:12,850 don't remember if Don has that story in 1582 01:18:18,900 --> 01:18:15,490 the book but Jackson was a doctor and 1583 01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:18,910 Don actually hit his head on a boat 1584 01:18:22,860 --> 01:18:21,130 motor while he was diving and was 1585 01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:22,870 knocked unconscious and basically 1586 01:18:28,740 --> 01:18:26,530 drowned and Jackson shocked it with with 1587 01:18:30,210 --> 01:18:28,750 the batteries of milk oils the wires on 1588 01:18:32,510 --> 01:18:30,220 their boat and brought it back to life 1589 01:18:36,450 --> 01:18:32,520 so they had a very special relationship 1590 01:18:40,380 --> 01:18:36,460 and they actually went up to southern 1591 01:18:44,670 --> 01:18:40,390 Newfoundland and they'd oh they found 1592 01:18:49,310 --> 01:18:44,680 that wreck they found it and what okay 1593 01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:49,320 now this to stay in a chronological 1594 01:18:56,070 --> 01:18:52,930 order in a linear sense because as so 1595 01:18:59,670 --> 01:18:56,080 much stuff happens all of this all of 1596 01:19:02,310 --> 01:18:59,680 this is because of the of the brass 1597 01:19:04,290 --> 01:19:02,320 hockey puck yeah it all started with 1598 01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:04,300 dock with the with the decorative bulb 1599 01:19:09,750 --> 01:19:06,970 the little boy falling breaking it and 1600 01:19:11,670 --> 01:19:09,760 inside they discover these things okay 1601 01:19:13,050 --> 01:19:11,680 so now they how they got in there we 1602 01:19:14,460 --> 01:19:13,060 don't know that we don't know but 1603 01:19:15,690 --> 01:19:14,470 obviously Bannerman must have been 1604 01:19:17,110 --> 01:19:15,700 involved in that or one of his 1605 01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:17,120 associates and 1606 01:19:21,370 --> 01:19:19,610 hit it in the in the brass seal on the 1607 01:19:22,900 --> 01:19:21,380 flower-garden his wife's flower guide I 1608 01:19:27,420 --> 01:19:22,910 don't know why I don't I look out there 1609 01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:27,430 we don't know and does anybody know 1610 01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:32,810 going back to the Cremona document is it 1611 01:19:39,730 --> 01:19:34,970 still in the Vatican is it is it just 1612 01:19:42,370 --> 01:19:39,740 gone well I I can bring you full circle 1613 01:19:44,500 --> 01:19:42,380 on that okay then let's go home 1614 01:19:46,030 --> 01:19:44,510 certainly let me let me go back and just 1615 01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:46,040 tell you what happened and how we got 1616 01:19:50,740 --> 01:19:48,770 how I became involved in on so in 19th 1617 01:19:52,660 --> 01:19:50,750 they find the ship when they found the 1618 01:19:55,630 --> 01:19:52,670 ship and there were artifacts attached 1619 01:19:58,660 --> 01:19:55,640 to the mass because there was a brass a 1620 01:20:00,610 --> 01:19:58,670 strap that went around and held the two 1621 01:20:02,770 --> 01:20:00,620 pieces of wood together to make the mask 1622 01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:02,780 and there was a stone that was shoved 1623 01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:05,090 into it to tighten it it was a wedge 1624 01:20:10,060 --> 01:20:07,370 stone that you know you pound it and 1625 01:20:11,950 --> 01:20:10,070 it'll tighten the strap but there were 1626 01:20:15,010 --> 01:20:11,960 symbols that were carved on this rock 1627 01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:15,020 that the rock pounded into the strap on 1628 01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:16,730 the mast and this is what they pulled up 1629 01:20:22,710 --> 01:20:20,210 and no symbols become iconic symbols 1630 01:20:25,630 --> 01:20:22,720 throughout the story because they repeat 1631 01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:25,640 but in any case so once they found that 1632 01:20:29,140 --> 01:20:27,650 shipwreck and God didn't know what the 1633 01:20:32,230 --> 01:20:29,150 hell they were he had no idea was the 1634 01:20:33,970 --> 01:20:32,240 12th century ship they they ended up 1635 01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:33,980 turning up because the first thing I 1636 01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:36,050 asked I said well where's the mast we 1637 01:20:39,460 --> 01:20:37,610 can date the wood he said well it was 1638 01:20:40,900 --> 01:20:39,470 turned over to Canadian authorities and 1639 01:20:44,110 --> 01:20:40,910 they never saw it again 1640 01:20:46,540 --> 01:20:44,120 but what was important is that Jackson 1641 01:20:49,420 --> 01:20:46,550 was convinced when they found the 1642 01:20:51,790 --> 01:20:49,430 shipwreck that the story was true then 1643 01:20:54,190 --> 01:20:51,800 what he did is that the rest of the 1644 01:20:57,340 --> 01:20:54,200 story talks about the ships coming over 1645 01:20:59,560 --> 01:20:57,350 they dropped off a party and they made 1646 01:21:01,800 --> 01:20:59,570 their way to what is now hunter mountain 1647 01:21:05,290 --> 01:21:01,810 and they found the temple of the goddess 1648 01:21:08,890 --> 01:21:05,300 and a bunch of things happen and then 1649 01:21:11,230 --> 01:21:08,900 they leave and come back Jackson said we 1650 01:21:13,690 --> 01:21:11,240 have to find now I know the story's true 1651 01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:13,700 that means there's something on in the 1652 01:21:17,290 --> 01:21:15,650 catskill it didn't say hunter mountain 1653 01:21:19,390 --> 01:21:17,300 right they didn't call it that back then 1654 01:21:24,670 --> 01:21:19,400 but they knew that it was somewhere in 1655 01:21:26,770 --> 01:21:24,680 the Catskills from 1971 to 1977 they 1656 01:21:29,050 --> 01:21:26,780 searched every mountain they could in 1657 01:21:33,310 --> 01:21:29,060 this area they thought it was it 1658 01:21:35,530 --> 01:21:33,320 from six years to find the location and 1659 01:21:36,610 --> 01:21:35,540 Don was up he said we went up every 1660 01:21:38,230 --> 01:21:36,620 other weekend and we were on that 1661 01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:38,240 mountain I said well how many times 1662 01:21:43,030 --> 01:21:41,210 you've been up they said I lost count so 1663 01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:43,040 he was going up on these tricks with 1664 01:21:48,040 --> 01:21:44,810 with Jackson and sometimes they'd have 1665 01:21:50,380 --> 01:21:48,050 other people with him but in 1977 is 1666 01:21:54,940 --> 01:21:50,390 when they found it they found the 1667 01:21:57,700 --> 01:21:54,950 signature markers on Hunter and what 1668 01:22:01,900 --> 01:21:57,710 they were looking for was the tomb of 1669 01:22:03,700 --> 01:22:01,910 all tomara because all tomorrow if we go 1670 01:22:08,590 --> 01:22:03,710 back to the story of the Cremona 1671 01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:08,600 document it's the story of a Templar 1672 01:22:16,300 --> 01:22:11,810 Knight named Ralph to subtly whose 1673 01:22:20,620 --> 01:22:16,310 mission was to travel to an Theora or to 1674 01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:20,630 an tiara to North America to the temple 1675 01:22:26,490 --> 01:22:22,250 of the goddess in what is now the 1676 01:22:29,530 --> 01:22:26,500 Catskill Mountains to recover scrolls 1677 01:22:32,980 --> 01:22:29,540 that were hidden on hunter mountain in 1678 01:22:36,580 --> 01:22:32,990 the first century how did he know about 1679 01:22:38,980 --> 01:22:36,590 those Scrolls the first part of the 1680 01:22:41,140 --> 01:22:38,990 Templar document is a first-hand 1681 01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:41,150 narrative of the six templar knights 1682 01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:45,770 that went under the Temple Mount in 1683 01:22:55,060 --> 01:22:50,890 Jerusalem in Jerusalem in detail and 1684 01:22:59,920 --> 01:22:55,070 tell us what they found they found a 1685 01:23:02,500 --> 01:22:59,930 chamber underneath the temple they found 1686 01:23:06,010 --> 01:23:02,510 four ossuaries and the contents of those 1687 01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:06,020 ossuaries included documents that told 1688 01:23:12,310 --> 01:23:08,570 them about other first century documents 1689 01:23:14,530 --> 01:23:12,320 hidden in North America okay so now I 1690 01:23:17,650 --> 01:23:14,540 need to be clear here for the audience 1691 01:23:20,110 --> 01:23:17,660 that's what the document that's what the 1692 01:23:26,140 --> 01:23:20,120 Cremona document is a first-hand 1693 01:23:31,270 --> 01:23:26,150 narrative sir ralph de subtly he's gonna 1694 01:23:33,430 --> 01:23:31,280 go on a mission to recover first century 1695 01:23:36,100 --> 01:23:33,440 scrolls that were hidden in the 1696 01:23:38,970 --> 01:23:36,110 Catskills all right and they were hidden 1697 01:23:41,860 --> 01:23:38,980 after the Romans destroyed Jerusalem and 1698 01:23:44,830 --> 01:23:41,870 you know disperse the 1699 01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:44,840 the different traditions that existed at 1700 01:23:48,220 --> 01:23:45,650 that time 1701 01:23:50,620 --> 01:23:48,230 that we talk about all the time that 1702 01:23:52,540 --> 01:23:50,630 Christianity has sort of morphed into a 1703 01:23:55,390 --> 01:23:52,550 different version we now call Roman 1704 01:23:59,560 --> 01:23:55,400 Catholicism but but the secrets of that 1705 01:24:01,810 --> 01:23:59,570 original tradition document and they 1706 01:24:04,450 --> 01:24:01,820 were so important they were taken to 1707 01:24:07,480 --> 01:24:04,460 North America and hidden over here right 1708 01:24:10,330 --> 01:24:07,490 so arson how did they get in the first 1709 01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:10,340 century how did they get from there to 1710 01:24:21,190 --> 01:24:12,130 here 1711 01:24:25,780 --> 01:24:21,200 Catskills of New York in in the first 1712 01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:25,790 century yes I mean the Cremona document 1713 01:24:38,070 --> 01:24:28,250 called god that's it I'm coming to 1714 01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:44,920 I know they took boats there I think 1715 01:24:48,220 --> 01:24:46,730 they did it quietly you know just 1716 01:24:49,660 --> 01:24:48,230 because somebody didn't write down that 1717 01:24:52,510 --> 01:24:49,670 they came doesn't mean they didn't come 1718 01:24:54,310 --> 01:24:52,520 that's my question right and so there's 1719 01:24:56,020 --> 01:24:54,320 logistics that are involved here that 1720 01:24:58,030 --> 01:24:56,030 you you've got to get a crew together 1721 01:24:59,530 --> 01:24:58,040 you've got to get ships together you got 1722 01:25:01,540 --> 01:24:59,540 to get the documents you got to get them 1723 01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:01,550 out of Jerusalem you've got to get them 1724 01:25:06,610 --> 01:25:03,890 on boats and get them over here I mean 1725 01:25:07,390 --> 01:25:06,620 how did that mission happen or do we not 1726 01:25:10,180 --> 01:25:07,400 know any of that 1727 01:25:11,590 --> 01:25:10,190 well I at this point we don't know a 1728 01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:11,600 heck of a lot about the details that 1729 01:25:14,830 --> 01:25:13,130 information but let me just back up for 1730 01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:14,840 a second go back to what we talked about 1731 01:25:18,610 --> 01:25:16,610 at the very beginning of the show you 1732 01:25:20,530 --> 01:25:18,620 were saying that there's a lot of 1733 01:25:22,810 --> 01:25:20,540 controversial history about North 1734 01:25:24,340 --> 01:25:22,820 America the whole Columbus thing is just 1735 01:25:26,110 --> 01:25:24,350 BS and that there were people coming 1736 01:25:27,790 --> 01:25:26,120 here long before that you've heard of 1737 01:25:32,230 --> 01:25:27,800 the copper culture right that's right 1738 01:25:33,550 --> 01:25:32,240 I've been Michigan Oh yep now just for a 1739 01:25:37,170 --> 01:25:33,560 second I mean we're talking about the 1740 01:25:40,150 --> 01:25:37,180 Bronze Age which is pre pre Jesus right 1741 01:25:42,910 --> 01:25:40,160 now I've read certain documents to say 1742 01:25:46,090 --> 01:25:42,920 that Jesus's father was a tin merchant 1743 01:25:48,190 --> 01:25:46,100 he dealt in tin which means that he 1744 01:25:50,260 --> 01:25:48,200 would regularly sail to the British 1745 01:25:54,250 --> 01:25:50,270 Isles because that's where 10 is right 1746 01:25:55,629 --> 01:25:54,260 back then and today and if you study the 1747 01:25:57,729 --> 01:25:55,639 copper culture at all they were 1748 01:26:00,520 --> 01:25:57,739 coming phoenicians a lot of people say 1749 01:26:02,139 --> 01:26:00,530 and I agree with that would sail through 1750 01:26:04,779 --> 01:26:02,149 the Straits of Gibraltar 1751 01:26:07,839 --> 01:26:04,789 up through the British Isles and then 1752 01:26:10,659 --> 01:26:07,849 take the northern route into st. 1753 01:26:12,790 --> 01:26:10,669 Lawrence and the Ottawa River up into 1754 01:26:14,580 --> 01:26:12,800 Lake Superior and they would pick hopper 1755 01:26:17,020 --> 01:26:14,590 up off the ground 1756 01:26:19,569 --> 01:26:17,030 remember this is post-glacial times 1757 01:26:21,790 --> 01:26:19,579 right we still to this day can find 1758 01:26:23,439 --> 01:26:21,800 float copper on the ground imagine what 1759 01:26:25,659 --> 01:26:23,449 it was like after the glaciers melted 1760 01:26:28,179 --> 01:26:25,669 away right it was laying everywhere me 1761 01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:28,189 Dee my point is on the backhaul right 1762 01:26:32,979 --> 01:26:31,010 they would stop in England get the ten 1763 01:26:35,139 --> 01:26:32,989 and then they would show up in Europe 1764 01:26:37,810 --> 01:26:35,149 and they would make billions the point 1765 01:26:40,659 --> 01:26:37,820 is is that this is secret knowledge that 1766 01:26:43,989 --> 01:26:40,669 ship captains and sailors knew all about 1767 01:26:47,199 --> 01:26:43,999 this route for thousands of years okay 1768 01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:47,209 and people that were in elite positions 1769 01:26:52,750 --> 01:26:50,090 right you know if people have influenced 1770 01:26:54,580 --> 01:26:52,760 a lot of them are in the shipping trade 1771 01:26:58,330 --> 01:26:54,590 and Merchants that made a lot of money 1772 01:27:00,069 --> 01:26:58,340 and they had secrets like how to get to 1773 01:27:01,929 --> 01:27:00,079 certain places that other people don't 1774 01:27:07,359 --> 01:27:01,939 know how to go you can make a lot of 1775 01:27:09,219 --> 01:27:07,369 money and hide stuff so I think you can 1776 01:27:10,689 --> 01:27:09,229 see where I'm going here this is 1777 01:27:14,159 --> 01:27:10,699 knowledge that's been known for a long 1778 01:27:18,750 --> 01:27:14,169 time within certain secret societies 1779 01:27:22,179 --> 01:27:18,760 like ship captains and merchants and 1780 01:27:24,100 --> 01:27:22,189 they certain sand they would they knew 1781 01:27:27,370 --> 01:27:24,110 about these routes they knew about this 1782 01:27:29,739 --> 01:27:27,380 land over here I mean there were people 1783 01:27:32,620 --> 01:27:29,749 who had a strong interest in not telling 1784 01:27:34,209 --> 01:27:32,630 people about that because they wanted 1785 01:27:36,310 --> 01:27:34,219 the wealth for themselves the Roman 1786 01:27:39,189 --> 01:27:36,320 Church is a good example of that 1787 01:27:40,810 --> 01:27:39,199 Schumi of the leaders in ancient times 1788 01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:40,820 they they had a good gig you're not 1789 01:27:44,830 --> 01:27:42,050 going to tell anybody where your best 1790 01:27:47,259 --> 01:27:44,840 fishing hole is Aria now we've got to 1791 01:27:50,500 --> 01:27:47,269 head towards a break here but we we 1792 01:27:52,569 --> 01:27:50,510 mentioned 1492 we mentioned 1362 with 1793 01:27:56,229 --> 01:27:52,579 the Kensington but now we're pushing 1794 01:27:58,689 --> 01:27:56,239 things back another 350 years or 250 1795 01:28:01,660 --> 01:27:58,699 years to the first century where the 1796 01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:01,670 documents these scrolls 1797 01:28:07,270 --> 01:28:05,090 were brought out of Jerusalem we don't 1798 01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:07,280 necessarily know that it was 1st century 1799 01:28:14,050 --> 01:28:10,570 AD that they were deposited here right 1800 01:28:15,790 --> 01:28:14,060 no I think it was probably well you know 1801 01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:15,800 what the answer the honest answer is we 1802 01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:17,570 don't know exactly when they got here 1803 01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:19,850 but what we know is the contents of 1804 01:28:25,780 --> 01:28:22,370 those journals which Jackson and Don 1805 01:28:27,459 --> 01:28:25,790 eventually were able to decipher and we 1806 01:28:30,550 --> 01:28:27,469 got you it's very important information 1807 01:28:33,510 --> 01:28:30,560 about the first century the royal family 1808 01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:33,520 including the marriage document between 1809 01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:40,010 yeshua ben Yosef and Mary of Miriam of 1810 01:28:44,830 --> 01:28:42,170 McDowell and we'll talk about that all 1811 01:28:52,380 --> 01:28:44,840 of it when we come back and I've also I 1812 01:29:00,160 --> 01:28:55,270 let her go okay you got it let's take a 1813 01:29:03,669 --> 01:29:00,170 break right in yes a document that were 1814 01:29:06,100 --> 01:29:03,679 recovered on I'm just concerned about 1815 01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:06,110 line number seven and we're gonna do all 1816 01:29:11,740 --> 01:29:10,010 of that won't we Scott Wolter is the 1817 01:29:16,660 --> 01:29:11,750 guest this is fade to black hmmm you 1818 01:29:16,670 --> 01:29:26,500 [Music] 1819 01:29:32,709 --> 01:29:29,709 way out here we listen to Jimmy Church 1820 01:29:35,209 --> 01:29:32,719 you're listening to faint and black 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01:34:14,340 --> 01:34:11,140 the cats go rat hunter mountain and with 1905 01:34:18,570 --> 01:34:14,350 dr. Jackson and I'm getting ready before 1906 01:34:21,810 --> 01:34:18,580 I post the image of line number 7 which 1907 01:34:24,360 --> 01:34:21,820 Twitter is patiently waiting for right 1908 01:34:27,780 --> 01:34:24,370 now what did they what did they find up 1909 01:34:30,350 --> 01:34:27,790 on the Catskills and the second part of 1910 01:34:36,390 --> 01:34:30,360 this is you get pulled into the story 1911 01:34:40,410 --> 01:34:36,400 2006 and the carving of this it's a 1912 01:34:44,400 --> 01:34:40,420 goose right if I'm mistaken you get 1913 01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:44,410 pulled in to investigate this what did 1914 01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:46,690 they find up there before I post this 1915 01:34:55,910 --> 01:34:51,010 picture of of line number seven okay 1916 01:34:58,800 --> 01:34:55,920 so what they found was in the story they 1917 01:35:03,210 --> 01:34:58,810 ralphus utterly on his way over 1918 01:35:04,890 --> 01:35:03,220 stops in Denmark and he approaches the 1919 01:35:08,130 --> 01:35:04,900 Danish king at the time who was a 1920 01:35:10,440 --> 01:35:08,140 Templar Knight and he the reason he went 1921 01:35:11,340 --> 01:35:10,450 to him is he wanted somebody in their 1922 01:35:14,910 --> 01:35:11,350 Court 1923 01:35:18,300 --> 01:35:14,920 they Danish king's court to go with them 1924 01:35:19,590 --> 01:35:18,310 and that person was a woman and her name 1925 01:35:23,100 --> 01:35:19,600 was all tomorrow 1926 01:35:26,460 --> 01:35:23,110 and the King said I'll release her from 1927 01:35:28,170 --> 01:35:26,470 her duties here but she someone has to 1928 01:35:31,560 --> 01:35:28,180 marry her so she married one of the 1929 01:35:35,310 --> 01:35:31,570 Knights that he brought with him and so 1930 01:35:36,990 --> 01:35:35,320 then she leads them back here she knows 1931 01:35:40,070 --> 01:35:37,000 her hunter mountain is which begs the 1932 01:35:42,720 --> 01:35:40,080 question how al does she know right well 1933 01:35:45,180 --> 01:35:42,730 it doesn't it never says anywhere in the 1934 01:35:48,060 --> 01:35:45,190 document my only speculation is she had 1935 01:35:50,540 --> 01:35:48,070 to have been Native American and been 1936 01:35:53,010 --> 01:35:50,550 brought over to Denmark from from there 1937 01:35:56,790 --> 01:35:53,020 so that tells you that there had to have 1938 01:36:00,760 --> 01:35:56,800 been multiple trips to to the New World 1939 01:36:03,520 --> 01:36:00,770 by Templar in and other 1940 01:36:05,920 --> 01:36:03,530 groups and that's the only thing I can 1941 01:36:08,710 --> 01:36:05,930 conclude well anyway she leads them to 1942 01:36:12,370 --> 01:36:08,720 the mountain and as you read the story 1943 01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:12,380 in the narrative you grow to really you 1944 01:36:18,310 --> 01:36:14,810 really grow to like her she's obviously 1945 01:36:20,200 --> 01:36:18,320 very bright and and spiritual and and 1946 01:36:22,090 --> 01:36:20,210 she knows where to go and she brings him 1947 01:36:24,700 --> 01:36:22,100 there but what happens is there's a 1948 01:36:26,050 --> 01:36:24,710 there's an ambush by a warring tribe of 1949 01:36:29,590 --> 01:36:26,060 the people of the temple of the goddess 1950 01:36:31,570 --> 01:36:29,600 and she's killed they burn her body they 1951 01:36:34,600 --> 01:36:31,580 put her in a wooden box which is 1952 01:36:38,530 --> 01:36:34,610 interesting maybe an ossuary perhaps and 1953 01:36:41,260 --> 01:36:38,540 then they bury her her remains they put 1954 01:36:43,840 --> 01:36:41,270 her ashes in an urn urn in a wooden box 1955 01:36:48,100 --> 01:36:43,850 and they put it inside of a small cave 1956 01:36:49,140 --> 01:36:48,110 on hunter and with offerings and then 1957 01:36:53,140 --> 01:36:49,150 they seal it 1958 01:36:57,340 --> 01:36:53,150 that is what Jackson and and Don were 1959 01:37:01,360 --> 01:36:57,350 looking for and they found it on October 1960 01:37:04,420 --> 01:37:01,370 11th of 1977 incredible and and they 1961 01:37:06,070 --> 01:37:04,430 found it and what happened was that but 1962 01:37:07,480 --> 01:37:06,080 but what happened then is very 1963 01:37:09,970 --> 01:37:07,490 interesting and this is what I write 1964 01:37:14,020 --> 01:37:09,980 about my new book the Cremona document 1965 01:37:16,330 --> 01:37:14,030 is published but I really wanted to know 1966 01:37:18,940 --> 01:37:16,340 what was going on in Jackson's mind and 1967 01:37:21,790 --> 01:37:18,950 he writes a narrative he writes story 1968 01:37:23,650 --> 01:37:21,800 in the night early 90s about this whole 1969 01:37:26,650 --> 01:37:23,660 experience and he puts all this stuff 1970 01:37:29,620 --> 01:37:26,660 into context and you you you hear the 1971 01:37:31,300 --> 01:37:29,630 story I mean I've heard it up until well 1972 01:37:33,160 --> 01:37:31,310 I read that thing about ten years ago 1973 01:37:35,650 --> 01:37:33,170 but but I only knew it from Dawn's 1974 01:37:37,690 --> 01:37:35,660 perspective but when I read Jackson's 1975 01:37:40,120 --> 01:37:37,700 perspective it was really interesting 1976 01:37:42,550 --> 01:37:40,130 because what happened was because of his 1977 01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:42,560 experience with berry fell and other 1978 01:37:46,930 --> 01:37:45,530 scholars who were pooh-poohing anything 1979 01:37:49,060 --> 01:37:46,940 that had to do with pre-columbian 1980 01:37:51,340 --> 01:37:49,070 contact heaven forbid we're going to 1981 01:37:52,660 --> 01:37:51,350 talk about the Templars okay that's why 1982 01:37:54,880 --> 01:37:52,670 you don't hear about it because they're 1983 01:37:58,510 --> 01:37:54,890 taboo my god we're not going down that 1984 01:38:01,120 --> 01:37:58,520 road and he said screw it I'm not gonna 1985 01:38:04,510 --> 01:38:01,130 I'm not going to publish this he became 1986 01:38:07,090 --> 01:38:04,520 so disillusioned that he decided he was 1987 01:38:09,580 --> 01:38:07,100 going to write a novel and tell the 1988 01:38:12,370 --> 01:38:09,590 story in a novel which people often do 1989 01:38:14,260 --> 01:38:12,380 who are worried about a negative 1990 01:38:18,940 --> 01:38:14,270 backlash in some cases 1991 01:38:20,500 --> 01:38:18,950 worried about about their their person 1992 01:38:23,230 --> 01:38:20,510 they're worried about somebody hurting 1993 01:38:24,880 --> 01:38:23,240 them or killing him so he decided he was 1994 01:38:28,630 --> 01:38:24,890 going to write a novel but what happened 1995 01:38:31,180 --> 01:38:28,640 was he became ill he came to he had 1996 01:38:34,240 --> 01:38:31,190 arterial sclerosis he knew he wasn't 1997 01:38:36,100 --> 01:38:34,250 going to live long and he turned he just 1998 01:38:39,700 --> 01:38:36,110 said I passed this on to the next person 1999 01:38:42,100 --> 01:38:39,710 that next person was done so dr. Jackson 2000 01:38:45,220 --> 01:38:42,110 died the context of what happened he 2001 01:38:48,940 --> 01:38:45,230 died in 2000 he died in 2000 but he 2002 01:38:52,810 --> 01:38:48,950 wrote that narrative his reflections 2003 01:38:54,810 --> 01:38:52,820 about the Cremona document in 1994 then 2004 01:38:57,400 --> 01:38:54,820 he said about for the next six years 2005 01:38:59,560 --> 01:38:57,410 figuring out clever ways to disseminate 2006 01:39:02,830 --> 01:38:59,570 the information that would eventually 2007 01:39:08,170 --> 01:39:02,840 make its way to Don any and it and it 2008 01:39:12,120 --> 01:39:08,180 did everything so his his collection 2009 01:39:15,270 --> 01:39:12,130 right his research everything go grab 2010 01:39:18,220 --> 01:39:15,280 documents everything everything going on 2011 01:39:23,050 --> 01:39:18,230 let me tell you some Jim there's stuff 2012 01:39:25,210 --> 01:39:23,060 that just stuff that Don has that I'm 2013 01:39:28,660 --> 01:39:25,220 working with them on now that's not in 2014 01:39:37,110 --> 01:39:28,670 that book and it's better than what's in 2015 01:39:47,410 --> 01:39:44,350 I've always got to wait okay so now now 2016 01:39:49,420 --> 01:39:47,420 Don takes over the story takes over the 2017 01:39:52,600 --> 01:39:49,430 research he's in possession of 2018 01:39:55,180 --> 01:39:52,610 everything you get pulled in in 2006 you 2019 01:40:00,070 --> 01:39:55,190 don't really know who dr. Jackson is or 2020 01:40:04,960 --> 01:40:00,080 his past I didn't then right and what I 2021 01:40:07,480 --> 01:40:04,970 now know is that and I forget if this is 2022 01:40:12,550 --> 01:40:07,490 even in the book but it turns out that 2023 01:40:16,170 --> 01:40:12,560 bill Jackson his father was involved in 2024 01:40:20,790 --> 01:40:16,180 some things back starting in the 20s and 2025 01:40:25,240 --> 01:40:20,800 30s that had to do with the Irish 2026 01:40:26,979 --> 01:40:25,250 resistance and he got himself into some 2027 01:40:29,110 --> 01:40:26,989 hot water 2028 01:40:30,729 --> 01:40:29,120 and he had to go into what was the 2029 01:40:34,720 --> 01:40:30,739 precursor to the witness protection 2030 01:40:40,720 --> 01:40:34,730 program and he changed his name his last 2031 01:40:42,459 --> 01:40:40,730 name was Jackson so so we when we first 2032 01:40:44,440 --> 01:40:42,469 got involved in the story one of the 2033 01:40:45,670 --> 01:40:44,450 first things I did was I went on the 2034 01:40:47,229 --> 01:40:45,680 internet and I tried to find bill 2035 01:40:48,729 --> 01:40:47,239 Jackson couldn't find any evidence of 2036 01:40:51,040 --> 01:40:48,739 them anyway exactly there's going to be 2037 01:40:52,780 --> 01:40:51,050 nothing there that is yes somewhere you 2038 01:40:54,459 --> 01:40:52,790 don't bother I can just tell you don't 2039 01:40:57,580 --> 01:40:54,469 bother and if you do you're gonna piss 2040 01:41:03,840 --> 01:40:57,590 people off okay I'm going to post now 2041 01:41:07,420 --> 01:41:03,850 let's get this up here is the image of 2042 01:41:12,100 --> 01:41:07,430 from one of the pages of the Cremona 2043 01:41:14,890 --> 01:41:12,110 document and this is up now with witches 2044 01:41:16,450 --> 01:41:14,900 it's got this line number seven in it I 2045 01:41:19,200 --> 01:41:16,460 want everybody to go oh you got to just 2046 01:41:22,500 --> 01:41:19,210 count one two three four five six seven 2047 01:41:25,000 --> 01:41:22,510 very interesting what's in line seven 2048 01:41:27,160 --> 01:41:25,010 well why don't you read it to me because 2049 01:41:28,930 --> 01:41:27,170 I don't have it up I'm just I'm on my 2050 01:41:30,970 --> 01:41:28,940 phone sitting on the couch I think I 2051 01:41:36,940 --> 01:41:30,980 know what it is I don't I don't speak 2052 01:41:40,420 --> 01:41:36,950 deben well it's in French actually 2053 01:41:44,110 --> 01:41:40,430 written in old Hebrew rice Yeshua ben 2054 01:41:45,030 --> 01:41:44,120 Yosef is that the one you've got yes yes 2055 01:41:47,950 --> 01:41:45,040 yes 2056 01:41:51,220 --> 01:41:47,960 basically what it is it's it's one of 2057 01:41:55,810 --> 01:41:51,230 the documents that was that was 2058 01:41:58,750 --> 01:41:55,820 recovered because this utterly didn't 2059 01:42:03,459 --> 01:41:58,760 get everything he had to go through and 2060 01:42:05,050 --> 01:42:03,469 read a ritual to earn the right to get 2061 01:42:07,330 --> 01:42:05,060 the scrolls after he came all that way 2062 01:42:11,170 --> 01:42:07,340 and went through all that adventure and 2063 01:42:13,840 --> 01:42:11,180 all the things that happened and he he 2064 01:42:15,700 --> 01:42:13,850 didn't get everything he only got about 2065 01:42:18,240 --> 01:42:15,710 half the documents but one of the 2066 01:42:23,229 --> 01:42:18,250 documents he got was the marriage 2067 01:42:27,010 --> 01:42:23,239 document of yeshua ben yosef yeshua is 2068 01:42:30,310 --> 01:42:27,020 the real name of jesus the biblical 2069 01:42:34,240 --> 01:42:30,320 jesus ben yosef means Jesus son of 2070 01:42:39,100 --> 01:42:34,250 Joseph which is interesting because that 2071 01:42:40,240 --> 01:42:39,110 document was deciphered before the tell 2072 01:42:42,850 --> 01:42:40,250 Pia tomb was too 2073 01:42:45,490 --> 01:42:42,860 covered and what does it say on that 2074 01:42:50,530 --> 01:42:45,500 Asha one of the ossuaries it says yeshua 2075 01:42:53,350 --> 01:42:50,540 ben yosef exactly the same and it's the 2076 01:42:55,500 --> 01:42:53,360 marriage document of Jesus and Miriam of 2077 01:42:59,800 --> 01:42:55,510 McDowell which is Mary Magdalene 2078 01:43:03,040 --> 01:42:59,810 now there's two hook taxes here yeah 2079 01:43:05,740 --> 01:43:03,050 yeah there's two hook taxes and I don't 2080 01:43:08,650 --> 01:43:05,750 is that am I saying that is that correct 2081 01:43:11,320 --> 01:43:08,660 is that the King's English two hooked 2082 01:43:16,120 --> 01:43:11,330 exes but I guess that would be correct 2083 01:43:17,770 --> 01:43:16,130 that is the right I mean a more proper 2084 01:43:20,380 --> 01:43:17,780 way of saying would be to hook Dex 2085 01:43:21,760 --> 01:43:20,390 symbols and to hook tax symbols there 2086 01:43:25,540 --> 01:43:21,770 you go that sounds right 2087 01:43:29,560 --> 01:43:25,550 and and they're clear as day Scot yep 2088 01:43:31,420 --> 01:43:29,570 yep there's more in there too in the 2089 01:43:33,820 --> 01:43:31,430 document if you look carefully and 2090 01:43:36,670 --> 01:43:33,830 you'll find about a half dozen in the 2091 01:43:40,420 --> 01:43:36,680 Cremona document but again it's 2092 01:43:42,840 --> 01:43:40,430 associated with the Templars and it's 2093 01:43:45,880 --> 01:43:42,850 associated with secret activities and 2094 01:43:47,740 --> 01:43:45,890 you know it's it's it really has 2095 01:43:50,200 --> 01:43:47,750 multiple meanings but one of the things 2096 01:43:52,510 --> 01:43:50,210 that I'm convinced of is that when you 2097 01:43:54,190 --> 01:43:52,520 see the hook Dex in the Cremona 2098 01:43:56,470 --> 01:43:54,200 documents that we're talking about now 2099 01:43:58,570 --> 01:43:56,480 and in the documents we're going to talk 2100 01:44:02,710 --> 01:43:58,580 about later because there's a bunch of 2101 01:44:05,410 --> 01:44:02,720 them in the Prince Henry journals is 2102 01:44:08,050 --> 01:44:05,420 that part of the reason they used it I 2103 01:44:10,150 --> 01:44:08,060 think was an acknowledgement of God it 2104 01:44:11,950 --> 01:44:10,160 was sort of like a good luck mark right 2105 01:44:13,960 --> 01:44:11,960 you know how people kind of you know 2106 01:44:16,180 --> 01:44:13,970 they cross themselves Chris you know 2107 01:44:18,610 --> 01:44:16,190 Catholics will cross themselves it was 2108 01:44:20,800 --> 01:44:18,620 that kind of a thing it was like asking 2109 01:44:23,830 --> 01:44:20,810 it was like a plea for protection 2110 01:44:25,540 --> 01:44:23,840 you know bless this honor this you know 2111 01:44:28,030 --> 01:44:25,550 help this document you know whatever 2112 01:44:30,070 --> 01:44:28,040 however you want term it and it was with 2113 01:44:32,020 --> 01:44:30,080 something that was very meaningful when 2114 01:44:34,780 --> 01:44:32,030 people cross themselves they're thinking 2115 01:44:37,240 --> 01:44:34,790 about their faith well the hook Dex was 2116 01:44:39,910 --> 01:44:37,250 a representation of their faith 2117 01:44:41,470 --> 01:44:39,920 it just wasn't Roman Christianity it was 2118 01:44:45,220 --> 01:44:41,480 a different faith it was a different 2119 01:44:46,810 --> 01:44:45,230 form of Christianity which is 2120 01:44:49,180 --> 01:44:46,820 interesting because when people say 2121 01:44:51,610 --> 01:44:49,190 Christianity they assume it means one 2122 01:44:53,110 --> 01:44:51,620 thing well that's not true 2123 01:44:54,089 --> 01:44:53,120 there are different kinds of 2124 01:44:57,669 --> 01:44:54,099 Christianity 2125 01:45:00,549 --> 01:44:57,679 and you know depending on what you 2126 01:45:02,979 --> 01:45:00,559 believe that's right for you does it 2127 01:45:04,750 --> 01:45:02,989 mean that it's right or wrong right now 2128 01:45:07,600 --> 01:45:04,760 some religions will say theirs is the 2129 01:45:08,859 --> 01:45:07,610 only religion but that's not true it's 2130 01:45:12,129 --> 01:45:08,869 just what they think is the right 2131 01:45:15,729 --> 01:45:12,139 religion now for you to believe what 2132 01:45:18,370 --> 01:45:15,739 they want let's talk about your 2133 01:45:19,930 --> 01:45:18,380 involvement in this because as in a 2134 01:45:24,399 --> 01:45:19,940 second we have to change gears and get 2135 01:45:26,830 --> 01:45:24,409 to the other side of this story so you 2136 01:45:30,569 --> 01:45:26,840 get pulled in in 2006 you're looking at 2137 01:45:36,069 --> 01:45:30,579 this you're pulled in to look at this 2138 01:45:38,919 --> 01:45:36,079 rock with it's a huge stone but there is 2139 01:45:41,350 --> 01:45:38,929 a carving of a goose there so tell us 2140 01:45:44,200 --> 01:45:41,360 about that and again this is on Hunter 2141 01:45:46,239 --> 01:45:44,210 mountain right well there are several 2142 01:45:49,089 --> 01:45:46,249 carvings on the mountain that's just one 2143 01:45:51,819 --> 01:45:49,099 of them and there are several carvings 2144 01:45:54,160 --> 01:45:51,829 that have been found by Don and others 2145 01:45:55,870 --> 01:45:54,170 in the Catskill Mountains I mean you 2146 01:45:57,520 --> 01:45:55,880 know hunter is just one place there's 2147 01:45:59,560 --> 01:45:57,530 stuff all over that region there there 2148 01:46:02,200 --> 01:45:59,570 are people wandering those places in 2149 01:46:05,470 --> 01:46:02,210 ancient times and some of these carvings 2150 01:46:10,330 --> 01:46:05,480 I think are Native America but the goose 2151 01:46:16,200 --> 01:46:10,340 carving was part of shall I say a grid 2152 01:46:17,410 --> 01:46:16,210 system and that grid system helped us 2153 01:46:20,020 --> 01:46:17,420 well 2154 01:46:22,359 --> 01:46:20,030 when let's let's just go back to 1977 2155 01:46:25,689 --> 01:46:22,369 when they found the tomb they found 2156 01:46:29,290 --> 01:46:25,699 altameyer ashes 2157 01:46:31,000 --> 01:46:29,300 they eventually reinterred them in a 2158 01:46:33,459 --> 01:46:31,010 different place we don't know where that 2159 01:46:35,830 --> 01:46:33,469 is they're still up there someplace 2160 01:46:39,729 --> 01:46:35,840 they're not in the urn none of the 2161 01:46:42,520 --> 01:46:39,739 original artifacts that were found in 2162 01:46:43,810 --> 01:46:42,530 all Tamar's tomb are on the mountain in 2163 01:46:49,720 --> 01:46:43,820 fact there's really nothing on the 2164 01:46:53,919 --> 01:46:49,730 mountain anymore to find they found it 2165 01:46:56,439 --> 01:46:53,929 but it's it's so some of the things that 2166 01:47:01,149 --> 01:46:56,449 were found one of the things that was 2167 01:47:03,279 --> 01:47:01,159 found in the tomb with the urn and the 2168 01:47:07,840 --> 01:47:03,289 artifacts including a diamond that has a 2169 01:47:10,420 --> 01:47:07,850 story an uncut diamond a large uncut 2170 01:47:13,270 --> 01:47:10,430 diamond that has a whole mystery of its 2171 01:47:18,130 --> 01:47:13,280 own but there was also another tube 2172 01:47:24,010 --> 01:47:18,140 found in the cave in the tomb and in it 2173 01:47:25,840 --> 01:47:24,020 was a map that we used with the carvings 2174 01:47:29,250 --> 01:47:25,850 on the mountain including the goose that 2175 01:47:32,260 --> 01:47:29,260 led us to dig and we found another 2176 01:47:34,960 --> 01:47:32,270 inscribed stone that had the same 2177 01:47:37,390 --> 01:47:34,970 symbols on it that were on that stone 2178 01:47:41,680 --> 01:47:37,400 that tightened the brass strap on the 2179 01:47:43,960 --> 01:47:41,690 shipwreck that was found right and on 2180 01:47:46,560 --> 01:47:43,970 the back side there were roman numbers 2181 01:47:50,380 --> 01:47:46,570 that were a latitude and a longitude and 2182 01:47:53,830 --> 01:47:50,390 the words in camera which is Latin for 2183 01:47:59,350 --> 01:47:53,840 in chamber in tomb in secret it's 2184 01:48:02,590 --> 01:47:59,360 actually today used in it's a lot a term 2185 01:48:04,690 --> 01:48:02,600 of law which means we're going to want 2186 01:48:06,460 --> 01:48:04,700 to when a judge says to the lawyers 2187 01:48:07,870 --> 01:48:06,470 we're gonna meet in camera means we're 2188 01:48:11,530 --> 01:48:07,880 going to go in my chambers and meet 2189 01:48:15,400 --> 01:48:11,540 secretly privately and that latitude and 2190 01:48:17,410 --> 01:48:15,410 longitude when you correct it for the 2191 01:48:19,990 --> 01:48:17,420 Paris meridian which is the Templar 2192 01:48:23,350 --> 01:48:20,000 meridian not Greenwich takes you to a 2193 01:48:26,590 --> 01:48:23,360 very interesting place but that was what 2194 01:48:31,570 --> 01:48:26,600 we found in our time and I can tell you 2195 01:48:33,940 --> 01:48:31,580 this I now know that that map that was 2196 01:48:37,270 --> 01:48:33,950 put in that tube inside all Tamara's 2197 01:48:42,370 --> 01:48:37,280 tomb that Jackson found was placed there 2198 01:48:46,060 --> 01:48:42,380 in the 17th century which means somebody 2199 01:48:51,940 --> 01:48:46,070 else had been on the mountain prior to 2200 01:48:57,760 --> 01:48:51,950 Jackson right this is like the greatest 2201 01:49:02,500 --> 01:48:57,770 story ever told it gets better but but 2202 01:49:07,330 --> 01:49:02,510 in the end they found everything that 2203 01:49:10,660 --> 01:49:07,340 was in the tomb and then Jackson because 2204 01:49:14,770 --> 01:49:10,670 of his disillusionment buried everything 2205 01:49:16,720 --> 01:49:14,780 in places and eventually Don got them he 2206 01:49:18,940 --> 01:49:16,730 got them piecemeal over a period of 2207 01:49:21,310 --> 01:49:18,950 years some of the things he didn't get 2208 01:49:23,620 --> 01:49:21,320 until his colleagues died 2209 01:49:25,780 --> 01:49:23,630 who's gotten all that now we got enough 2210 01:49:27,609 --> 01:49:25,790 of the pieces of the puzzle to help them 2211 01:49:29,709 --> 01:49:27,619 put it all together okay who's got that 2212 01:49:33,970 --> 01:49:29,719 where's the urn today where's the tube 2213 01:49:37,780 --> 01:49:33,980 today where's the map today the 2214 01:49:40,060 --> 01:49:37,790 originals the the what what what Jackson 2215 01:49:43,240 --> 01:49:40,070 left that map that we use to find the 2216 01:49:45,490 --> 01:49:43,250 stone and and the piece of gypsum the 2217 01:49:51,040 --> 01:49:45,500 optical gypsum for navigating in cloudy 2218 01:49:54,069 --> 01:49:51,050 weather Don still has that stuff but the 2219 01:49:57,120 --> 01:49:54,079 map was a copy that Jackson hid in the 2220 01:50:00,189 --> 01:49:57,130 back of an old picture along with some 2221 01:50:02,410 --> 01:50:00,199 floppy disks this tells you long ago 2222 01:50:04,569 --> 01:50:02,420 this was right but on the floppy disk 2223 01:50:09,129 --> 01:50:04,579 were pictures of the Cremona document 2224 01:50:11,680 --> 01:50:09,139 and where's the uncut diamond the uncut 2225 01:50:14,770 --> 01:50:11,690 diamond I'd have to go back and look but 2226 01:50:17,649 --> 01:50:14,780 it was sold eight times seriously I'm 2227 01:50:22,419 --> 01:50:17,659 not making this story up eight times 2228 01:50:25,689 --> 01:50:22,429 within three years all eight people were 2229 01:50:27,640 --> 01:50:25,699 dead within six months always the number 2230 01:50:32,640 --> 01:50:27,650 eight or the number twelve I know I 2231 01:50:36,250 --> 01:50:32,650 don't know why the his god thirteen okay 2232 01:50:38,350 --> 01:50:36,260 now that's true that's I mean it's 2233 01:50:40,450 --> 01:50:38,360 written in there it's that's the story 2234 01:50:42,729 --> 01:50:40,460 of that diamond it was an uncut diamond 2235 01:50:46,060 --> 01:50:42,739 and when they finally cut it it was a 2236 01:50:47,560 --> 01:50:46,070 three carat diamond so then how big it 2237 01:50:52,600 --> 01:50:47,570 was in the rough I think it was like ten 2238 01:50:56,229 --> 01:50:52,610 carats in the rough in 2017 an envelope 2239 01:50:57,640 --> 01:50:56,239 arrives from Europe I don't know how you 2240 01:50:59,200 --> 01:50:57,650 are at the right place at the right time 2241 01:51:03,819 --> 01:50:59,210 Don it's at the right place at the right 2242 01:51:04,810 --> 01:51:03,829 time Jackson but you guys seem to be at 2243 01:51:07,060 --> 01:51:04,820 the right place at the right time 2244 01:51:09,609 --> 01:51:07,070 through all of this and including the 2245 01:51:12,010 --> 01:51:09,619 second half of this story when we do 2246 01:51:14,680 --> 01:51:12,020 this after the break again all of this 2247 01:51:17,229 --> 01:51:14,690 is coming together why I can't believe I 2248 01:51:18,850 --> 01:51:17,239 know this is going slow down what was in 2249 01:51:24,640 --> 01:51:18,860 that envelope that arrived from Europe 2250 01:51:26,919 --> 01:51:24,650 oh that's that that's a beauty man let 2251 01:51:29,830 --> 01:51:26,929 me tell you about I do want oh I didn't 2252 01:51:31,629 --> 01:51:29,840 hear ya well what happened is and this 2253 01:51:34,439 --> 01:51:31,639 is so ironic I'm just going to tell you 2254 01:51:38,279 --> 01:51:34,449 the story because what happened is 2255 01:51:38,879 --> 01:51:38,289 Don was working with a dear friend of 2256 01:51:40,620 --> 01:51:38,889 all of ours 2257 01:51:42,779 --> 01:51:40,630 Xena helper and she passed away a few 2258 01:51:44,909 --> 01:51:42,789 months ago she was involved in this 2259 01:51:46,500 --> 01:51:44,919 story with actually she Don approached 2260 01:51:49,919 --> 01:51:46,510 her before she approached me she 2261 01:51:51,270 --> 01:51:49,929 suggested Don get me involved to look at 2262 01:51:54,600 --> 01:51:51,280 these and concerns 2263 01:51:57,779 --> 01:51:54,610 anyway she worked on this story for 13 2264 01:52:02,040 --> 01:51:57,789 years and Xena did a lot of really great 2265 01:52:06,109 --> 01:52:02,050 work unfortunately what happened is she 2266 01:52:09,120 --> 01:52:06,119 was not in the greatest of health and 2267 01:52:12,810 --> 01:52:09,130 she wanted to help the brothers on Oak 2268 01:52:15,149 --> 01:52:12,820 Island so she took some of the material 2269 01:52:16,770 --> 01:52:15,159 that Don had and she showed it to him 2270 01:52:19,859 --> 01:52:16,780 and she got on the show the brothers 2271 01:52:22,049 --> 01:52:19,869 used it some of the stuff she showed him 2272 01:52:23,580 --> 01:52:22,059 was great the map the Nova Scotia map 2273 01:52:26,159 --> 01:52:23,590 that thing's awesome hooked decks on 2274 01:52:28,589 --> 01:52:26,169 there everything else but the other map 2275 01:52:31,139 --> 01:52:28,599 that she showed him the Oak Island map 2276 01:52:35,040 --> 01:52:31,149 which they used I think last season and 2277 01:52:37,350 --> 01:52:35,050 the season before Don didn't realize it 2278 01:52:39,330 --> 01:52:37,360 at the time he gave it to her but since 2279 01:52:42,000 --> 01:52:39,340 that time he has come to realize he 2280 01:52:45,449 --> 01:52:42,010 found a knight a letter from 1979 that 2281 01:52:48,359 --> 01:52:45,459 map was fake she didn't know about it at 2282 01:52:50,370 --> 01:52:48,369 the time anyway so the brothers were all 2283 01:52:55,020 --> 01:52:50,380 excited about this Xena was in ill 2284 01:52:59,639 --> 01:52:55,030 health so they approached Don and Don 2285 01:53:03,810 --> 01:52:59,649 was had for whatever reasons he was 2286 01:53:05,159 --> 01:53:03,820 skeptical I happened to take a trip a 2287 01:53:07,560 --> 01:53:05,169 year and a half ago to New York 2288 01:53:09,000 --> 01:53:07,570 I called Donnie said hey Don what are 2289 01:53:11,359 --> 01:53:09,010 you doing can I come by and see her I 2290 01:53:13,889 --> 01:53:11,369 just wanted to stop by and see him a 2291 01:53:17,669 --> 01:53:13,899 week before I was there he got that 2292 01:53:21,779 --> 01:53:17,679 envelope it was mailed to him and what 2293 01:53:29,359 --> 01:53:21,789 that envelope contained were pictures of 2294 01:53:34,529 --> 01:53:29,369 a letter that Jackson's daughter Melissa 2295 01:53:37,709 --> 01:53:34,539 had found that spring a year ago last 2296 01:53:39,449 --> 01:53:37,719 spring when she was preparing to move to 2297 01:53:45,509 --> 01:53:39,459 Scotland from Ireland where she was 2298 01:53:47,819 --> 01:53:45,519 living and she she found this envelope 2299 01:53:50,189 --> 01:53:47,829 and then there was a letter it said 2300 01:53:51,689 --> 01:53:50,199 you know if anything happens to me make 2301 01:53:53,849 --> 01:53:51,699 sure Don gets this and for whatever 2302 01:53:59,939 --> 01:53:53,859 reason she misplaced it and never got it 2303 01:54:05,149 --> 01:53:59,949 to him and so in there were pictures of 2304 01:54:07,770 --> 01:54:05,159 this letter and some other stuff and 2305 01:54:10,020 --> 01:54:07,780 it's just that that's that's how this 2306 01:54:10,949 --> 01:54:10,030 stuff comes it's like Don does just 2307 01:54:12,750 --> 01:54:10,959 sitting there minding his own business 2308 01:54:14,579 --> 01:54:12,760 all of a sudden something happens and 2309 01:54:15,869 --> 01:54:14,589 then envelope shows up and here's 2310 01:54:19,529 --> 01:54:15,879 another piece of this puzzle it's 2311 01:54:21,839 --> 01:54:19,539 incredible it's almost like Bill Jackson 2312 01:54:25,349 --> 01:54:21,849 never died it's like he's playing this 2313 01:54:30,719 --> 01:54:25,359 game with all of us but he's finally 2314 01:54:33,750 --> 01:54:30,729 letting us see all the pieces and it's 2315 01:54:36,449 --> 01:54:33,760 just incredible I wished I would have 2316 01:54:38,009 --> 01:54:36,459 met this guy because I'm starting to 2317 01:54:38,849 --> 01:54:38,019 understand how he thinks and how 2318 01:54:42,479 --> 01:54:38,859 glowingly 2319 01:54:44,549 --> 01:54:42,489 Don talked talks about Bill Jackson his 2320 01:54:46,259 --> 01:54:44,559 friend that he met him when he was when 2321 01:54:48,629 --> 01:54:46,269 he was seven years old they've known 2322 01:54:51,649 --> 01:54:48,639 each other their whole lives and it's 2323 01:54:53,909 --> 01:54:51,659 it's a it's a it's a beautiful story and 2324 01:54:56,669 --> 01:54:53,919 here's these guys that were doing all 2325 01:55:01,139 --> 01:54:56,679 this crazy stuff and nefarious stuff and 2326 01:55:03,089 --> 01:55:01,149 and and doing I can tell you this the 2327 01:55:06,689 --> 01:55:03,099 work that they used to do was dealing 2328 01:55:09,829 --> 01:55:06,699 with really bad people really bad people 2329 01:55:12,379 --> 01:55:09,839 the worst of the worst and helping 2330 01:55:15,959 --> 01:55:12,389 certain entities of our government 2331 01:55:19,349 --> 01:55:15,969 capture bad guys and I could tell you 2332 01:55:23,069 --> 01:55:19,359 stories that you would just never forget 2333 01:55:25,439 --> 01:55:23,079 about things that Don and Bill and there 2334 01:55:29,339 --> 01:55:25,449 and Spartan and all these guys did that 2335 01:55:31,889 --> 01:55:29,349 that the world will never know about but 2336 01:55:34,109 --> 01:55:31,899 we're safer and the world is better 2337 01:55:37,199 --> 01:55:34,119 because of the work they did now with 2338 01:55:40,139 --> 01:55:37,209 all of your work going back you know the 2339 01:55:47,290 --> 01:55:40,149 to the Kensington Runestone which was 2340 01:55:50,290 --> 01:55:47,300 1362 but yeah the Cremona document the 2341 01:55:53,830 --> 01:55:50,300 the discoveries at Hunter Mountain all 2342 01:55:55,900 --> 01:55:53,840 of this documentation now is supporting 2343 01:55:58,900 --> 01:55:55,910 everything that you have been saying all 2344 01:56:02,430 --> 01:55:58,910 along why doesn't this start to blow 2345 01:56:05,410 --> 01:56:02,440 doors down I mean this seems to me that 2346 01:56:07,180 --> 01:56:05,420 I don't know what other supporting 2347 01:56:10,060 --> 01:56:07,190 evidence needs to happen well we'll 2348 01:56:13,180 --> 01:56:10,070 cover that after the break well I I can 2349 01:56:15,130 --> 01:56:13,190 answer that question real quick I excuse 2350 01:56:18,670 --> 01:56:15,140 me for interrupting but you make a great 2351 01:56:20,470 --> 01:56:18,680 point but let me just be clear I am no 2352 01:56:21,880 --> 01:56:20,480 I'm a hundred percent with Don now 2353 01:56:26,080 --> 01:56:21,890 because I've been on the mountain and 2354 01:56:27,760 --> 01:56:26,090 I've seen all this stuff the the the 2355 01:56:31,390 --> 01:56:27,770 Prince Henry journalists were going to 2356 01:56:34,780 --> 01:56:31,400 talk about I am 99% sure that they're 2357 01:56:36,670 --> 01:56:34,790 that story's true I'll be a hundred 2358 01:56:38,920 --> 01:56:36,680 percent when we pull something out of 2359 01:56:40,690 --> 01:56:38,930 the ground unfortunately with that story 2360 01:56:42,790 --> 01:56:40,700 I've already pulled stuff out of the 2361 01:56:45,730 --> 01:56:42,800 ground literally with the Cremona 2362 01:56:48,700 --> 01:56:45,740 document but with with the Prince Henry 2363 01:56:51,640 --> 01:56:48,710 stuff we have not done that yet we are 2364 01:56:54,880 --> 01:56:51,650 going to do that but that has to happen 2365 01:56:57,010 --> 01:56:54,890 before I'm a hundred percent onboard is 2366 01:56:59,560 --> 01:56:57,020 that make sense yeah it does and really 2367 01:57:03,010 --> 01:56:59,570 quick and you can answer this in a quick 2368 01:57:07,060 --> 01:57:03,020 manner we've got about two minutes have 2369 01:57:09,670 --> 01:57:07,070 you put your hands on the urn no I have 2370 01:57:12,610 --> 01:57:09,680 not because Jackson sold it that was 2371 01:57:14,560 --> 01:57:12,620 part of the part of the disillusionment 2372 01:57:16,360 --> 01:57:14,570 that he went through and he said he 2373 01:57:18,280 --> 01:57:16,370 basically said screw it I'm just gonna 2374 01:57:21,040 --> 01:57:18,290 sell this stuff and a lot of it had to 2375 01:57:23,200 --> 01:57:21,050 do and and I'm not I'm not here to try 2376 01:57:25,060 --> 01:57:23,210 to bang on Barry fell because Barry Feld 2377 01:57:27,190 --> 01:57:25,070 did a lot of good work and he deserves 2378 01:57:29,020 --> 01:57:27,200 credit for the good work that he did he 2379 01:57:30,880 --> 01:57:29,030 did this was not one of his shining 2380 01:57:32,710 --> 01:57:30,890 moments right but because of what 2381 01:57:36,940 --> 01:57:32,720 happened with Barry fell and other 2382 01:57:40,750 --> 01:57:36,950 scholars that poo-pooed everything and 2383 01:57:42,340 --> 01:57:40,760 and it was it's bad he just he became 2384 01:57:43,900 --> 01:57:42,350 disillusioned screw it I'm not even 2385 01:57:45,820 --> 01:57:43,910 gonna bother I'm just gonna sell the 2386 01:57:47,950 --> 01:57:45,830 stuff get my money what he did do is 2387 01:57:51,430 --> 01:57:47,960 take the ashes and they reinterred them 2388 01:57:53,760 --> 01:57:51,440 in something that was far less glamorous 2389 01:57:56,380 --> 01:57:53,770 than the urn and I'll leave it at that 2390 01:57:58,330 --> 01:57:56,390 and he reinterred it in a different 2391 01:58:00,159 --> 01:57:58,340 place and Don told me don't bother 2392 01:58:02,620 --> 01:58:00,169 looking he said you'll never find 2393 01:58:07,830 --> 01:58:02,630 and that's okay because I think we 2394 01:58:11,469 --> 01:58:07,840 should just leave aunty uh all tomara 2395 01:58:13,929 --> 01:58:11,479 alone lever lever to rest and and we 2396 01:58:15,279 --> 01:58:13,939 know her story and we don't go digging 2397 01:58:17,500 --> 01:58:15,289 up other people's graves 2398 01:58:19,959 --> 01:58:17,510 she's been dug up once let's let's leave 2399 01:58:23,889 --> 01:58:19,969 her yeah yeah when you when you consider 2400 01:58:25,870 --> 01:58:23,899 bury fell who and if you've if you're 2401 01:58:28,540 --> 01:58:25,880 part of this little circle where you're 2402 01:58:31,209 --> 01:58:28,550 studying this and researching this he on 2403 01:58:34,389 --> 01:58:31,219 one side Harvard University marine 2404 01:58:36,209 --> 01:58:34,399 biologists life is good he starts 2405 01:58:39,310 --> 01:58:36,219 writing books about you know 2406 01:58:42,100 --> 01:58:39,320 pre-columbian history Egyptians a 2407 01:58:44,259 --> 01:58:42,110 Phoenicians and your career is toast 2408 01:58:47,679 --> 01:58:44,269 and that's yeah that's what happened to 2409 01:58:50,589 --> 01:58:47,689 Barry fell okay now but and we have to 2410 01:58:51,939 --> 01:58:50,599 give him credit for for being brave to 2411 01:58:53,620 --> 01:58:51,949 do it because he thought it was the 2412 01:58:55,330 --> 01:58:53,630 right thing and I'll always respect him 2413 01:58:57,879 --> 01:58:55,340 for that that's right but he was human 2414 01:58:59,500 --> 01:58:57,889 too we all make mistakes and it's just 2415 01:59:01,209 --> 01:58:59,510 the way the world works let's take a 2416 01:59:04,000 --> 01:59:01,219 break right here our guest tonight is 2417 01:59:05,889 --> 01:59:04,010 the one and only Scott Wolter now when 2418 01:59:07,899 --> 01:59:05,899 we come back we're gonna talk about 2419 01:59:10,600 --> 01:59:07,909 those lost Templar journals of Prince 2420 01:59:13,389 --> 01:59:10,610 Henry Sinclair who was Prince Henry 2421 01:59:14,859 --> 01:59:13,399 Sinclair and the documents would do all 2422 01:59:15,820 --> 01:59:14,869 of that we come back stay with us this 2423 01:59:16,230 --> 01:59:15,830 is fade to black 2424 01:59:19,750 --> 01:59:16,240 [Music] 2425 01:59:26,880 --> 01:59:22,010 everybody's Rob Halford the mental guard 2426 01:59:30,910 --> 01:59:30,160 this is kera digital broadcasting 2427 01:59:34,110 --> 01:59:30,920 station 2428 01:59:36,550 --> 01:59:34,120 Salt Lake City Utah Van Buren Arkansas 2429 01:59:38,680 --> 01:59:36,560 poor water quality is a major health 2430 01:59:40,570 --> 01:59:38,690 issue and it's only getting worse 2431 01:59:42,400 --> 01:59:40,580 municipalities can't keep up standards 2432 01:59:45,520 --> 01:59:42,410 have dropped and pollutants are 2433 01:59:47,350 --> 01:59:45,530 increasing 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Brooks why fade to black 2530 02:03:58,040 --> 02:03:55,010 this is fade to black with Jimmy Church 2531 02:04:02,330 --> 02:03:58,050 on the game changer radio network and K 2532 02:04:14,110 --> 02:04:02,340 GRA the global radio alliance 2533 02:04:16,100 --> 02:04:14,120 [Music] 2534 02:04:18,820 --> 02:04:16,110 welcome back fade to black I'm real 2535 02:04:21,710 --> 02:04:18,830 super Church guests tonight Scott Wolter 2536 02:04:24,650 --> 02:04:21,720 all right now we've got the set up now 2537 02:04:27,620 --> 02:04:24,660 we're gonna close this thing out The 2538 02:04:31,490 --> 02:04:27,630 Lost Templar journals of prints or is it 2539 02:04:34,030 --> 02:04:31,500 Earl is it prints a reserve you know the 2540 02:04:36,770 --> 02:04:34,040 proper term is Earl Henry Sinclair 2541 02:04:39,890 --> 02:04:36,780 technically he was an heir to the throne 2542 02:04:42,590 --> 02:04:39,900 so Prince Prince is right but in the 2543 02:04:46,570 --> 02:04:42,600 SCOTUS system it would be Earl and that 2544 02:04:51,500 --> 02:04:46,580 is the voice of our guest Scott Wolter 2545 02:04:54,560 --> 02:04:51,510 no I need to you know we need to have 2546 02:04:58,640 --> 02:04:54,570 some clarification here because I've 2547 02:05:01,520 --> 02:04:58,650 seen it written both ways right and yeah 2548 02:05:04,160 --> 02:05:01,530 so I but I think really the the proper 2549 02:05:09,140 --> 02:05:04,170 term would be Earl Earl Henry Sinclair 2550 02:05:13,880 --> 02:05:09,150 okay who was who was Henry well Henry 2551 02:05:16,070 --> 02:05:13,890 was he was a Scottish Earl and he was 2552 02:05:22,100 --> 02:05:16,080 basically born into a very prominent 2553 02:05:23,720 --> 02:05:22,110 family a long list of URLs that in the 2554 02:05:26,900 --> 02:05:23,730 Sinclair clan I mean they weren't the 2555 02:05:29,000 --> 02:05:26,910 only Earl's in Scotland but they were 2556 02:05:31,460 --> 02:05:29,010 one of the more powerful families and I 2557 02:05:34,250 --> 02:05:31,470 think some would say probably the most 2558 02:05:37,220 --> 02:05:34,260 powerful family during during that time 2559 02:05:40,280 --> 02:05:37,230 and you know it's there's been a lot of 2560 02:05:44,540 --> 02:05:40,290 speculation about about the Sinclair's 2561 02:05:48,680 --> 02:05:44,550 and being the hereditary Grand Master's 2562 02:05:50,470 --> 02:05:48,690 of the Knights Templar order and I think 2563 02:05:53,950 --> 02:05:50,480 there's some truth to that but I think 2564 02:05:59,360 --> 02:05:53,960 there's been some misunderstanding about 2565 02:06:01,580 --> 02:05:59,370 what exactly the Knights what Knights 2566 02:06:04,250 --> 02:06:01,590 Templar order are you talking about and 2567 02:06:06,170 --> 02:06:04,260 I don't want to get too far down into 2568 02:06:08,210 --> 02:06:06,180 that well because there are many Templar 2569 02:06:11,660 --> 02:06:08,220 orders that exist to this you know 2570 02:06:14,300 --> 02:06:11,670 especially today and there were Templar 2571 02:06:18,530 --> 02:06:14,310 orders that existed multiple orders that 2572 02:06:22,310 --> 02:06:18,540 existed back then to was part of it was 2573 02:06:27,050 --> 02:06:22,320 he part of the Sinclair the 2574 02:06:31,130 --> 02:06:27,060 the Rosslyn Chapel and that side yes 2575 02:06:33,590 --> 02:06:31,140 his Earl Henry's grandson William st. 2576 02:06:37,370 --> 02:06:33,600 Clair his direct descendant built 2577 02:06:40,700 --> 02:06:37,380 Rosslyn Chapel right so yes that is of 2578 02:06:43,660 --> 02:06:40,710 that same line and so in this in this 2579 02:06:49,190 --> 02:06:43,670 late in this first book that's published 2580 02:06:52,580 --> 02:06:49,200 and if you if you read the the my blog 2581 02:06:55,850 --> 02:06:52,590 post I and you read the book you find 2582 02:06:59,500 --> 02:06:55,860 out that there are actually 20 books in 2583 02:07:03,590 --> 02:06:59,510 this collection that was found by this 2584 02:07:08,120 --> 02:07:03,600 friend of ours and close colleague and 2585 02:07:10,480 --> 02:07:08,130 associate Diana Muir she found about 14 2586 02:07:12,680 --> 02:07:10,490 years ago I guess it is now 15 years ago 2587 02:07:15,520 --> 02:07:12,690 she found this collection of journals 2588 02:07:18,530 --> 02:07:15,530 inside of a saddlebag inside of a chest 2589 02:07:21,620 --> 02:07:18,540 that had been rescued from a fire in a 2590 02:07:23,720 --> 02:07:21,630 church that burned down in 1880 in this 2591 02:07:24,320 --> 02:07:23,730 this thing ended up in the Historical 2592 02:07:29,300 --> 02:07:24,330 Society 2593 02:07:31,550 --> 02:07:29,310 and and people didn't apparently didn't 2594 02:07:33,260 --> 02:07:31,560 either look at him or when they did they 2595 02:07:34,490 --> 02:07:33,270 saw that the writing they couldn't read 2596 02:07:36,290 --> 02:07:34,500 it would they were most of them are in 2597 02:07:38,990 --> 02:07:36,300 Latin some of them are in Old English 2598 02:07:41,990 --> 02:07:39,000 and they just and and there was this 2599 02:07:45,290 --> 02:07:42,000 wrapped up leather she called it a 2600 02:07:48,470 --> 02:07:45,300 burrito which was actually a map that 2601 02:07:51,890 --> 02:07:48,480 was made by Antonio Zeno 2602 02:07:53,720 --> 02:07:51,900 who was the navigator and one of two 2603 02:07:56,990 --> 02:07:53,730 xenos that went over to the western 2604 02:07:58,820 --> 02:07:57,000 lands with Earl Henry Sinclair that you 2605 02:08:05,050 --> 02:07:58,830 will read about in the next installment 2606 02:08:09,140 --> 02:08:05,060 of the story that's coming out in 2019 2607 02:08:11,210 --> 02:08:09,150 so what we're talking about is 20 2608 02:08:15,560 --> 02:08:11,220 journals that were part of a 2609 02:08:19,070 --> 02:08:15,570 father-to-son tradition that started 2610 02:08:22,790 --> 02:08:19,080 with Earl Henry Sinclair who passed on 2611 02:08:25,720 --> 02:08:22,800 the journals to his son who passed him 2612 02:08:28,940 --> 02:08:25,730 on to his son and his son and his son 2613 02:08:32,020 --> 02:08:28,950 after five generations of Sinclair's 2614 02:08:35,600 --> 02:08:32,030 these journals then transferred to a 2615 02:08:39,420 --> 02:08:35,610 different family the daughter of the 2616 02:08:40,890 --> 02:08:39,430 of the fourth generation of Sinclair's 2617 02:08:42,240 --> 02:08:40,900 and the brother of the fifth generation 2618 02:08:47,700 --> 02:08:42,250 of Sinclair's 2619 02:08:50,190 --> 02:08:47,710 gave the journals to her husband because 2620 02:08:55,580 --> 02:08:50,200 she didn't trust her brothers that they 2621 02:08:58,950 --> 02:08:55,590 would honor the agreement that was made 2622 02:09:02,000 --> 02:08:58,960 at the beginning now Scott before we 2623 02:09:04,830 --> 02:09:02,010 jump into the content of the journals 2624 02:09:06,240 --> 02:09:04,840 let's address something very directly 2625 02:09:12,150 --> 02:09:06,250 here yeah yeah 2626 02:09:14,250 --> 02:09:12,160 are they real I think so yeah I think I 2627 02:09:16,680 --> 02:09:14,260 think they are but what we're still 2628 02:09:19,590 --> 02:09:16,690 trying to figure out and I I don't know 2629 02:09:21,480 --> 02:09:19,600 how much time we want to spend on what's 2630 02:09:25,050 --> 02:09:21,490 happened in the last couple of years 2631 02:09:29,190 --> 02:09:25,060 because it's it's it's it's just as 2632 02:09:33,090 --> 02:09:29,200 murky as the Cremona document maybe more 2633 02:09:36,750 --> 02:09:33,100 in some ways but really the simple story 2634 02:09:38,700 --> 02:09:36,760 is the person that found them and 2635 02:09:42,750 --> 02:09:38,710 translated them I think she's done an 2636 02:09:45,180 --> 02:09:42,760 excellent job as far as I can tell with 2637 02:09:48,090 --> 02:09:45,190 her translations because we have spent 2638 02:09:52,290 --> 02:09:48,100 two and a half years vetting the events 2639 02:09:56,730 --> 02:09:52,300 the places the names of these journals 2640 02:09:58,800 --> 02:09:56,740 and we have not found a red flag yet we 2641 02:10:01,860 --> 02:09:58,810 have some yellow flags okay we have 2642 02:10:06,630 --> 02:10:01,870 questions about certain parts of the 2643 02:10:09,560 --> 02:10:06,640 journals but no red flags so and and and 2644 02:10:12,060 --> 02:10:09,570 enough good stuff that has been found 2645 02:10:14,040 --> 02:10:12,070 that I'm convinced that you couldn't 2646 02:10:17,070 --> 02:10:14,050 find there there there you couldn't put 2647 02:10:20,420 --> 02:10:17,080 together a panel of experts living today 2648 02:10:24,510 --> 02:10:20,430 that could have created this story okay 2649 02:10:27,180 --> 02:10:24,520 let's and just for clarification here 2650 02:10:31,560 --> 02:10:27,190 I need the audience to understand and 2651 02:10:33,750 --> 02:10:31,570 for me to as well where I know you're 2652 02:10:35,520 --> 02:10:33,760 good I know the answer to this but it is 2653 02:10:36,000 --> 02:10:35,530 one of the crazier parts of this whole 2654 02:10:39,930 --> 02:10:36,010 thing 2655 02:10:41,730 --> 02:10:39,940 where are the journals today go ahead 2656 02:10:44,250 --> 02:10:41,740 just drop the bomb just go ahead not 2657 02:10:46,860 --> 02:10:44,260 according to according to the person 2658 02:10:49,020 --> 02:10:46,870 that found them during a moment of 2659 02:10:52,800 --> 02:10:49,030 personal crisis she 2660 02:11:00,510 --> 02:10:52,810 said she threw them away right how many 2661 02:11:02,880 --> 02:11:00,520 pages survived three three so now are 2662 02:11:04,350 --> 02:11:02,890 those three pages again this is for 2663 02:11:06,300 --> 02:11:04,360 clarification because we're talking 2664 02:11:08,250 --> 02:11:06,310 about a very important things here and 2665 02:11:10,890 --> 02:11:08,260 now I don't want to mislead and I 2666 02:11:15,360 --> 02:11:10,900 certainly want to understand - are those 2667 02:11:17,370 --> 02:11:15,370 three pages from the original documents 2668 02:11:20,880 --> 02:11:17,380 I don't think so 2669 02:11:25,020 --> 02:11:20,890 well let me clarify we have one page 2670 02:11:27,720 --> 02:11:25,030 that's written in Latin that is from one 2671 02:11:29,730 --> 02:11:27,730 of us from book one the one that's 2672 02:11:34,350 --> 02:11:29,740 published in fact pictures of that page 2673 02:11:36,720 --> 02:11:34,360 are in this book the front and back I 2674 02:11:37,230 --> 02:11:36,730 don't believe that that's from the 14th 2675 02:11:40,830 --> 02:11:37,240 century 2676 02:11:43,050 --> 02:11:40,840 I think it's been recopy but if it's 2677 02:11:44,940 --> 02:11:43,060 true to the original I don't care the 2678 02:11:47,160 --> 02:11:44,950 Cremona document isn't a 12th century 2679 02:11:49,100 --> 02:11:47,170 document it's a copy 2680 02:11:52,710 --> 02:11:49,110 for sure of an original document 2681 02:11:54,900 --> 02:11:52,720 probably a copy of a copy of a copy now 2682 02:11:57,210 --> 02:11:54,910 this is not unusual this is what the 2683 02:11:59,370 --> 02:11:57,220 Cistercians and the Templars did they 2684 02:12:02,010 --> 02:11:59,380 made multiple copies of very important 2685 02:12:03,630 --> 02:12:02,020 documents that marriage document that 2686 02:12:06,090 --> 02:12:03,640 was recovered in the 12th century isn't 2687 02:12:08,460 --> 02:12:06,100 the only one there are multiple copies 2688 02:12:11,970 --> 02:12:08,470 of that I know the Vatican has at least 2689 02:12:16,830 --> 02:12:11,980 one right so that's - right because the 2690 02:12:20,130 --> 02:12:16,840 Templars got the other one so I think 2691 02:12:22,650 --> 02:12:20,140 it's it's it's likely that the page and 2692 02:12:24,840 --> 02:12:22,660 I have all three of these pages and 2693 02:12:29,750 --> 02:12:24,850 we're going to be testing them very very 2694 02:12:33,990 --> 02:12:29,760 soon it has to be done the right way so 2695 02:12:35,940 --> 02:12:34,000 I think that page was probably a copy of 2696 02:12:37,830 --> 02:12:35,950 the original or a copy of a copy of the 2697 02:12:40,950 --> 02:12:37,840 original again doesn't matter as long as 2698 02:12:43,950 --> 02:12:40,960 it's true to the original we also have a 2699 02:12:47,520 --> 02:12:43,960 page of the Old English which dates to 2700 02:12:50,820 --> 02:12:47,530 the 17th century that may be a copy too 2701 02:12:55,320 --> 02:12:50,830 but we'll find out the last piece is 2702 02:13:00,420 --> 02:12:55,330 written in English in the 18th century 2703 02:13:02,590 --> 02:13:00,430 and that could be an original page I can 2704 02:13:05,410 --> 02:13:02,600 tell you that I'm a hundred Burkett 2705 02:13:08,320 --> 02:13:05,420 and convinced when I saw the original 2706 02:13:10,500 --> 02:13:08,330 map that that was original that was not 2707 02:13:15,030 --> 02:13:10,510 a copy I think that was the original 2708 02:13:21,010 --> 02:13:15,040 what oh okay so that one was from 1770 2709 02:13:24,370 --> 02:13:21,020 right the map the the 18th century man 2710 02:13:29,200 --> 02:13:24,380 with would be 14th century no no the 2711 02:13:32,560 --> 02:13:29,210 18th I don't think you you heard me 2712 02:13:37,780 --> 02:13:32,570 that's okay okay the 18th century pages 2713 02:13:42,550 --> 02:13:37,790 from the Year 1770 no that page that I'm 2714 02:13:47,550 --> 02:13:42,560 talking about is from 1730 11731 what 2715 02:13:59,080 --> 02:13:56,650 1350 No 13:53 no it's it's 20 was 12 2716 02:14:03,400 --> 02:13:59,090 years old with 1357 okay 2717 02:14:05,290 --> 02:14:03,410 yes November 22nd 13 57 is one of the 2718 02:14:08,230 --> 02:14:05,300 entries and I can tell you what that is 2719 02:14:12,190 --> 02:14:08,240 later it's so cool no Jesus 2720 02:14:13,510 --> 02:14:12,200 and then the the Old English page was 2721 02:14:17,860 --> 02:14:13,520 dated I can't remember what the date was 2722 02:14:20,680 --> 02:14:17,870 but it was 1663 okay and what let's go 2723 02:14:23,290 --> 02:14:20,690 to the 1357 page let's start there we'll 2724 02:14:27,610 --> 02:14:23,300 go in in chronological order 2725 02:14:30,630 --> 02:14:27,620 what rate what oh okay actually let's 2726 02:14:34,500 --> 02:14:30,640 let's do this when she died Anna 2727 02:14:38,140 --> 02:14:34,510 translated all of this she had all of 2728 02:14:41,260 --> 02:14:38,150 the documents there that shadows transit 2729 02:14:44,080 --> 02:14:41,270 right today there are only three pages 2730 02:14:47,980 --> 02:14:44,090 of the original set correct 2731 02:14:52,090 --> 02:14:47,990 okay overall going back to the beginning 2732 02:14:56,290 --> 02:14:52,100 of this set what is the flavor of the 2733 02:14:58,960 --> 02:14:56,300 document what certainly you use the 2734 02:15:01,810 --> 02:14:58,970 words explosive right well certainly it 2735 02:15:07,030 --> 02:15:01,820 is that what is the flavor here what it 2736 02:15:10,960 --> 02:15:07,040 what are these documents saying well in 2737 02:15:15,070 --> 02:15:10,970 essence what it's telling us is in no 2738 02:15:16,239 --> 02:15:15,080 uncertain terms how this country was 2739 02:15:20,290 --> 02:15:16,249 founded 2740 02:15:23,049 --> 02:15:20,300 the real story of what happened what 2741 02:15:24,759 --> 02:15:23,059 would weigh you know I guess on one hand 2742 02:15:26,290 --> 02:15:24,769 when when and I can't talk about 2743 02:15:32,799 --> 02:15:26,300 everything I can only talk about it 2744 02:15:35,350 --> 02:15:32,809 Begley but what what is revealed in 2745 02:15:41,109 --> 02:15:35,360 these journals is and you said it in in 2746 02:15:42,520 --> 02:15:41,119 the previous set and that was that a lot 2747 02:15:43,359 --> 02:15:42,530 of what I've been talking about for a 2748 02:15:45,790 --> 02:15:43,369 long time 2749 02:15:51,009 --> 02:15:45,800 is coming to fruition it's being proven 2750 02:15:54,910 --> 02:15:51,019 to be true and this these guys these 2751 02:15:56,680 --> 02:15:54,920 these earl henry journals in some ways 2752 02:15:59,770 --> 02:15:56,690 they're some nights I sit there and I'm 2753 02:16:02,620 --> 02:15:59,780 laying in bed and I go somebody somebody 2754 02:16:06,219 --> 02:16:02,630 made this to kowtow to me they they 2755 02:16:08,500 --> 02:16:06,229 prove so much of what we've written 2756 02:16:10,479 --> 02:16:08,510 about in the hook Dex and Akhenaten and 2757 02:16:12,489 --> 02:16:10,489 the Kensington Runestone compelling new 2758 02:16:15,370 --> 02:16:12,499 evidence like you can't even imagine 2759 02:16:17,020 --> 02:16:15,380 it's like oh my god like this is the 2760 02:16:19,209 --> 02:16:17,030 answer to all the questions I've ever 2761 02:16:21,520 --> 02:16:19,219 had it's almost like it's too good to be 2762 02:16:25,589 --> 02:16:21,530 true but on the other hand like I said 2763 02:16:27,669 --> 02:16:25,599 before because of the level of detail of 2764 02:16:29,680 --> 02:16:27,679 historical events and unknown 2765 02:16:31,810 --> 02:16:29,690 information that turned out to be true 2766 02:16:37,240 --> 02:16:31,820 that we could not that nobody knew about 2767 02:16:40,000 --> 02:16:37,250 before it can't be faked so I I it's 2768 02:16:42,870 --> 02:16:40,010 it's just incredible and and one of the 2769 02:16:47,139 --> 02:16:42,880 things that in this first book happens 2770 02:16:51,969 --> 02:16:47,149 that people can read right now is you 2771 02:16:55,599 --> 02:16:51,979 learned about the Kensington Party you 2772 02:16:59,229 --> 02:16:55,609 learn who they were where they came from 2773 02:17:04,259 --> 02:16:59,239 when they left where they went and what 2774 02:17:07,780 --> 02:17:04,269 their mission was you even learn Jimmy 2775 02:17:09,639 --> 02:17:07,790 the name of the guy who most likely and 2776 02:17:11,919 --> 02:17:09,649 everyone that I've talked to in detail 2777 02:17:14,410 --> 02:17:11,929 about this and that have read those 2778 02:17:18,610 --> 02:17:14,420 entries and and given me their opinion 2779 02:17:20,940 --> 02:17:18,620 all agree we probably know the name of 2780 02:17:24,759 --> 02:17:20,950 the Carver of the Kensington Runestone 2781 02:17:28,540 --> 02:17:24,769 that's how much detail is in these 2782 02:17:30,259 --> 02:17:28,550 journals now when he references and I'm 2783 02:17:34,250 --> 02:17:30,269 talking about 2784 02:17:37,549 --> 02:17:34,260 Henry when he references you know 2785 02:17:40,280 --> 02:17:37,559 western lands we're talking about the 2786 02:17:43,759 --> 02:17:40,290 same Sinclair plan that built the 2787 02:17:47,599 --> 02:17:43,769 Rosslyn Chapel yep that they not only 2788 02:17:49,549 --> 02:17:47,609 came to the United States they reference 2789 02:17:52,219 --> 02:17:49,559 it as western lands I'm doing air quotes 2790 02:17:54,320 --> 02:17:52,229 here for everybody that's that that's 2791 02:17:58,450 --> 02:17:54,330 the term they use that's the term that 2792 02:18:05,179 --> 02:17:58,460 they use they didn't do it once right 2793 02:18:09,559 --> 02:18:05,189 that that William Sinclair ii himself he 2794 02:18:10,099 --> 02:18:09,569 he did seven trips now well let's put it 2795 02:18:12,559 --> 02:18:10,109 this way 2796 02:18:15,290 --> 02:18:12,569 earl Henry came over three times three 2797 02:18:19,070 --> 02:18:15,300 he write that his father had been there 2798 02:18:21,290 --> 02:18:19,080 six times before he brought Earl Henry 2799 02:18:26,269 --> 02:18:21,300 there the first time so seven times 2800 02:18:31,129 --> 02:18:26,279 seven times now I don't know how long it 2801 02:18:37,669 --> 02:18:31,139 took then to travel from the United 2802 02:18:40,070 --> 02:18:37,679 Kingdom to here the Americas one month 2803 02:18:42,019 --> 02:18:40,080 right so they're taking seven and and 2804 02:18:44,929 --> 02:18:42,029 one month back they're doing the seven 2805 02:18:48,139 --> 02:18:44,939 we're talking about years of travel that 2806 02:18:50,179 --> 02:18:48,149 are now that they are documenting here 2807 02:18:53,599 --> 02:18:50,189 going back and forth back and forth 2808 02:18:56,169 --> 02:18:53,609 yeah no they yeah I mean they were doing 2809 02:19:01,370 --> 02:18:56,179 this all the tank was routine remember 2810 02:19:04,729 --> 02:19:01,380 this utterly came over and eleven 78 79 2811 02:19:07,339 --> 02:19:04,739 and went back in 1180 this is two 2812 02:19:09,110 --> 02:19:07,349 hundred years later so think about all 2813 02:19:11,750 --> 02:19:09,120 the trips that happen between two subtly 2814 02:19:13,790 --> 02:19:11,760 and and arrow Henry's father who came 2815 02:19:16,099 --> 02:19:13,800 over seven times and he also mentions 2816 02:19:18,650 --> 02:19:16,109 his grandfather that came over here too 2817 02:19:26,000 --> 02:19:18,660 right so that's that's going back to 2818 02:19:31,250 --> 02:19:26,010 what 1300 now so and and to be clear 2819 02:19:34,570 --> 02:19:31,260 here I need your help on this this the 2820 02:19:39,019 --> 02:19:34,580 the Templar journals from Henry Sinclair 2821 02:19:41,959 --> 02:19:39,029 say this but the Cremona document is 2822 02:19:42,709 --> 02:19:41,969 saying the exact same thing and now we 2823 02:19:45,650 --> 02:19:42,719 have a cross 2824 02:19:47,419 --> 02:19:45,660 reference and and that's a really good 2825 02:19:50,030 --> 02:19:47,429 point that you bring up and what's 2826 02:19:53,719 --> 02:19:50,040 what's amazing about these two documents 2827 02:19:55,760 --> 02:19:53,729 is they represent two different time 2828 02:19:58,870 --> 02:19:55,770 periods in history but we're talking 2829 02:20:02,870 --> 02:19:58,880 about the same order right the Templars 2830 02:20:05,349 --> 02:20:02,880 they were they they came to us in modern 2831 02:20:08,269 --> 02:20:05,359 times through two different sources 2832 02:20:10,849 --> 02:20:08,279 completely independent of each other at 2833 02:20:13,490 --> 02:20:10,859 two different times right there is no 2834 02:20:16,820 --> 02:20:13,500 connection whatsoever between either one 2835 02:20:19,099 --> 02:20:16,830 of these sets of documents and to me and 2836 02:20:21,410 --> 02:20:19,109 but yet they independently corroborate 2837 02:20:26,269 --> 02:20:21,420 each other to a level that is just 2838 02:20:27,860 --> 02:20:26,279 incredible they it's again just to put 2839 02:20:31,160 --> 02:20:27,870 together either one of these documents 2840 02:20:33,740 --> 02:20:31,170 would take you know we sat down here one 2841 02:20:36,440 --> 02:20:33,750 night that we thought about this and we 2842 02:20:41,179 --> 02:20:36,450 came to the conclusion that even if you 2843 02:20:44,120 --> 02:20:41,189 got bill man Alan Butler Janet Walter 2844 02:20:45,410 --> 02:20:44,130 and Scott Wolter and I can't think of 2845 02:20:47,030 --> 02:20:45,420 anybody else who's been writing about 2846 02:20:50,719 --> 02:20:47,040 the Templars coming to America and 2847 02:20:52,219 --> 02:20:50,729 goddess worship like we have we could 2848 02:20:54,950 --> 02:20:52,229 not have done these we couldn't even 2849 02:20:58,250 --> 02:20:54,960 come close to writing these documents 2850 02:21:01,700 --> 02:20:58,260 even if we had an army of the greatest 2851 02:21:03,590 --> 02:21:01,710 Masonic scholar minds in the world that 2852 02:21:05,330 --> 02:21:03,600 team could not do this there's nobody 2853 02:21:07,790 --> 02:21:05,340 else living today that's written about 2854 02:21:10,219 --> 02:21:07,800 this stuff to the level that we have and 2855 02:21:11,110 --> 02:21:10,229 we couldn't do it so so if we didn't do 2856 02:21:14,269 --> 02:21:11,120 it who did 2857 02:21:19,400 --> 02:21:14,279 why then let me ask you let me ask you 2858 02:21:22,190 --> 02:21:19,410 this because after you know Friday the 2859 02:21:26,059 --> 02:21:22,200 13th right we're talking about a serious 2860 02:21:30,410 --> 02:21:26,069 depletion and a disk disbandment of the 2861 02:21:32,780 --> 02:21:30,420 Knights Templar how why the Knights 2862 02:21:36,650 --> 02:21:32,790 Templar coming here and they would have 2863 02:21:39,349 --> 02:21:36,660 to regroup and and get the order back 2864 02:21:43,820 --> 02:21:39,359 together and travel here why the Knights 2865 02:21:46,760 --> 02:21:43,830 Templar well look the reality of what 2866 02:21:50,330 --> 02:21:46,770 happened is after the order was put down 2867 02:21:52,490 --> 02:21:50,340 right they didn't just disappear some of 2868 02:21:54,050 --> 02:21:52,500 the Templars went to went to Portugal 2869 02:21:56,510 --> 02:21:54,060 and they became while they were already 2870 02:21:56,719 --> 02:21:56,520 in Portugal but some escaped down there 2871 02:22:02,569 --> 02:21:56,729 and 2872 02:22:05,090 --> 02:22:02,579 order continued until 1835 they were an 2873 02:22:08,689 --> 02:22:05,100 official medieval monastic order 2874 02:22:11,979 --> 02:22:08,699 military monastic order for another 500 2875 02:22:14,540 --> 02:22:11,989 years after the put-down that's a fact 2876 02:22:16,660 --> 02:22:14,550 someone too was some went up into the 2877 02:22:18,889 --> 02:22:16,670 Baltic region and some went to Scotland 2878 02:22:23,000 --> 02:22:18,899 the Templars that went to Scotland 2879 02:22:25,510 --> 02:22:23,010 fought with Robert de Bru's the Earl's 2880 02:22:27,739 --> 02:22:25,520 of Orkney including Henry Sinclair 2881 02:22:30,080 --> 02:22:27,749 clearly as indicated in this first 2882 02:22:32,599 --> 02:22:30,090 journal protected the Templar knights 2883 02:22:38,319 --> 02:22:32,609 the fugitive Templar knights after they 2884 02:22:41,029 --> 02:22:38,329 served sir Robert the King and and and 2885 02:22:42,410 --> 02:22:41,039 they owed him they owed them a debt of 2886 02:22:44,989 --> 02:22:42,420 gratitude but you got to remember 2887 02:22:49,069 --> 02:22:44,999 something after the order is put down 2888 02:22:51,439 --> 02:22:49,079 they're no longer that Templars as we as 2889 02:22:55,460 --> 02:22:51,449 academics would describe them today 2890 02:22:58,969 --> 02:22:55,470 right for one thing there's no there's 2891 02:23:00,229 --> 02:22:58,979 no obligation there's no allegiance to 2892 02:23:03,200 --> 02:23:00,239 the Roman Catholic Church they've been 2893 02:23:04,519 --> 02:23:03,210 outlawed right so for one thing they're 2894 02:23:05,899 --> 02:23:04,529 not celibate anymore 2895 02:23:07,340 --> 02:23:05,909 they're married and they're having kids 2896 02:23:08,870 --> 02:23:07,350 while they were doing that before but 2897 02:23:10,250 --> 02:23:08,880 anyway you know what I'm saying yes but 2898 02:23:13,010 --> 02:23:10,260 the point is is that they became 2899 02:23:17,210 --> 02:23:13,020 something different they still were this 2900 02:23:19,040 --> 02:23:17,220 fighting force that it was respected but 2901 02:23:22,639 --> 02:23:19,050 they were still human beings that were 2902 02:23:27,229 --> 02:23:22,649 living their lives trying to do the work 2903 02:23:30,019 --> 02:23:27,239 and that they had a common interest with 2904 02:23:32,989 --> 02:23:30,029 it with the with the URLs and the Scots 2905 02:23:34,939 --> 02:23:32,999 who were and and and we've had this 2906 02:23:36,979 --> 02:23:34,949 debate because he's talking about this 2907 02:23:39,439 --> 02:23:36,989 order of knights that's hiding out in 2908 02:23:41,620 --> 02:23:39,449 these caves they're clearly supporting 2909 02:23:45,290 --> 02:23:41,630 them they're bringing them supplies 2910 02:23:47,870 --> 02:23:45,300 medicine food thing you know whatever 2911 02:23:49,069 --> 02:23:47,880 they needed to survive and what you're 2912 02:23:51,729 --> 02:23:49,079 going to learn in the future is 2913 02:23:57,410 --> 02:23:51,739 ultimately they brought them over here 2914 02:23:59,630 --> 02:23:57,420 and and they stayed and and in one of 2915 02:24:02,239 --> 02:23:59,640 the entries that you'll read in a future 2916 02:24:07,090 --> 02:24:02,249 thing they basically they basically said 2917 02:24:09,340 --> 02:24:07,100 look the church hates us the 2918 02:24:12,760 --> 02:24:09,350 the king of France and England I mean 2919 02:24:15,250 --> 02:24:12,770 we're we got bounties on our head and 2920 02:24:17,460 --> 02:24:15,260 plagues are ravaging all across why the 2921 02:24:20,130 --> 02:24:17,470 hell do we want to stay here and 2922 02:24:24,099 --> 02:24:20,140 remember this is the key thing that 2923 02:24:26,529 --> 02:24:24,109 becomes abundantly clear in the Cremona 2924 02:24:28,630 --> 02:24:26,539 document and in the journals and I've 2925 02:24:29,409 --> 02:24:28,640 made this argument for years and nobody 2926 02:24:32,710 --> 02:24:29,419 gets it 2927 02:24:38,199 --> 02:24:32,720 but it's the fundamental core of this 2928 02:24:41,590 --> 02:24:38,209 whole story their ideology was not 2929 02:24:44,290 --> 02:24:41,600 Catholic they were not Catholic they 2930 02:24:45,909 --> 02:24:44,300 pretended to be Catholic they aligned 2931 02:24:48,309 --> 02:24:45,919 with the Catholic Church keep your 2932 02:24:51,550 --> 02:24:48,319 friends close your enemies closer they 2933 02:24:54,519 --> 02:24:51,560 venerated the goddess just like the 2934 02:24:57,159 --> 02:24:54,529 matriarch make matriarchal cultures of 2935 02:24:59,920 --> 02:24:57,169 Native Americans that's why they got 2936 02:25:02,050 --> 02:24:59,930 along with them it's clear in the 2937 02:25:06,069 --> 02:25:02,060 journals they shared the same rituals 2938 02:25:08,199 --> 02:25:06,079 the same beliefs and the and and when 2939 02:25:11,769 --> 02:25:08,209 when Earl Henry brought those treasures 2940 02:25:13,750 --> 02:25:11,779 over the natives guarded them they 2941 02:25:17,409 --> 02:25:13,760 protected them the treasure didn't mean 2942 02:25:19,510 --> 02:25:17,419 anything to them and this is what's 2943 02:25:22,260 --> 02:25:19,520 going to come out in this story and it's 2944 02:25:25,300 --> 02:25:22,270 important and the world needs to hear it 2945 02:25:28,029 --> 02:25:25,310 think about it Jimmy the natives 2946 02:25:33,010 --> 02:25:28,039 protected that treasure for centuries 2947 02:25:37,090 --> 02:25:33,020 and look how we repaid them their story 2948 02:25:41,439 --> 02:25:37,100 needs to be told and somebody someday 2949 02:25:44,349 --> 02:25:41,449 has got to get up and formally apologize 2950 02:25:47,229 --> 02:25:44,359 and thank them because when this whole 2951 02:25:50,139 --> 02:25:47,239 story plays out everybody is going to be 2952 02:25:51,849 --> 02:25:50,149 demanding that and there's other people 2953 02:25:53,409 --> 02:25:51,859 that are gonna have to be thanked too 2954 02:25:56,139 --> 02:25:53,419 but I'm getting ahead of myself I don't 2955 02:25:58,719 --> 02:25:56,149 want to reveal the story but I'm telling 2956 02:26:01,119 --> 02:25:58,729 you that was the key and when the 2957 02:26:03,250 --> 02:26:01,129 Templars came over here they 2958 02:26:04,869 --> 02:26:03,260 intermarried they had children and 2959 02:26:09,069 --> 02:26:04,879 within a generation 2960 02:26:12,939 --> 02:26:09,079 they were native and you know what when 2961 02:26:18,130 --> 02:26:12,949 you truly understand how natives live 2962 02:26:20,860 --> 02:26:18,140 and and and and treat people it's not a 2963 02:26:25,389 --> 02:26:20,870 bad gig if you can get it now leave 2964 02:26:28,750 --> 02:26:25,399 okay I've got three bad side at that 2965 02:26:30,219 --> 02:26:28,760 time I've got three minutes before the 2966 02:26:32,950 --> 02:26:30,229 break and then we'll pick up when we 2967 02:26:36,790 --> 02:26:32,960 come back but in one of the entries 2968 02:26:40,679 --> 02:26:36,800 which was that they wanted to establish 2969 02:26:45,280 --> 02:26:40,689 a settlement in 13 in the spring of 1358 2970 02:26:47,980 --> 02:26:45,290 yep the Kensington Runestone is dated 2971 02:26:48,719 --> 02:26:47,990 when here help me out Scott say it out 2972 02:26:54,070 --> 02:26:48,729 loud 2973 02:26:56,500 --> 02:26:54,080 thirteen sixty two coincidence let me 2974 02:26:58,690 --> 02:26:56,510 tell you something pal none of this is 2975 02:27:00,790 --> 02:26:58,700 coincidence I say that all the time in 2976 02:27:02,740 --> 02:27:00,800 my lectures is the point this is another 2977 02:27:05,410 --> 02:27:02,750 coincidence right none of this is a 2978 02:27:09,810 --> 02:27:05,420 coincidence none of it at all and it's 2979 02:27:13,270 --> 02:27:09,820 there's a four-year span there but in 2980 02:27:15,639 --> 02:27:13,280 1358 do you have any idea where they 2981 02:27:17,950 --> 02:27:15,649 established again I'm doing air quotes 2982 02:27:20,040 --> 02:27:17,960 this is from the document is from the 2983 02:27:25,690 --> 02:27:20,050 journal do you have any idea where that 2984 02:27:30,790 --> 02:27:25,700 that settlement was well there is a clue 2985 02:27:34,179 --> 02:27:30,800 well we have two clues one is in the 2986 02:27:36,219 --> 02:27:34,189 entry and I don't even know if it's in 2987 02:27:38,280 --> 02:27:36,229 this book if it isn't it's in the next 2988 02:27:43,500 --> 02:27:38,290 book and you'll read it at some point 2989 02:27:47,410 --> 02:27:43,510 but a native visits with with Earl Henry 2990 02:27:52,540 --> 02:27:47,420 who travels a lot and he interacts with 2991 02:27:56,070 --> 02:27:52,550 the Kensington party once a year and one 2992 02:28:00,969 --> 02:27:58,750 items with the natives and the natives 2993 02:28:03,300 --> 02:28:00,979 get copper and silver from them right 2994 02:28:06,760 --> 02:28:03,310 there's only one place in the world 2995 02:28:10,270 --> 02:28:06,770 where you can get native copper and 2996 02:28:14,310 --> 02:28:10,280 silver that is diagnostic to a specific 2997 02:28:17,380 --> 02:28:14,320 area and that's the yupi of michigan 2998 02:28:19,030 --> 02:28:17,390 that is this area here where I live 2999 02:28:20,740 --> 02:28:19,040 that's where they and the other piece of 3000 02:28:22,900 --> 02:28:20,750 evidence that we have that tells us 3001 02:28:25,060 --> 02:28:22,910 where that settlement was is the 3002 02:28:32,020 --> 02:28:25,070 Kensington Runestone which is also here 3003 02:28:34,660 --> 02:28:32,030 so it was here somewhere in Minnesota or 3004 02:28:36,670 --> 02:28:34,670 probably probably you know I 3005 02:28:40,660 --> 02:28:36,680 think it is I think it's go okay or not 3006 02:28:43,030 --> 02:28:40,670 go okay but Kathy oh there is a large 3007 02:28:48,250 --> 02:28:43,040 Ojibwa settlement that was at the 3008 02:28:51,280 --> 02:28:48,260 southern end of oh my god what's the big 3009 02:28:53,110 --> 02:28:51,290 lake drawn a blank well through all the 3010 02:28:55,450 --> 02:28:53,120 Mille Lacs Lake Mille Lacs Lake it's in 3011 02:28:57,940 --> 02:28:55,460 central Minnesota if you go to a map 3012 02:28:59,590 --> 02:28:57,950 you'll see this great big round Lake in 3013 02:29:01,540 --> 02:28:59,600 central Minnesota 3014 02:29:03,969 --> 02:29:01,550 it's about an hour drive hour-and-a-half 3015 02:29:06,969 --> 02:29:03,979 Drive to Kensington Minnesota in about 3016 02:29:08,620 --> 02:29:06,979 an hour and a half drive to Duluth which 3017 02:29:10,810 --> 02:29:08,630 is where Lake Superior is so I think 3018 02:29:13,150 --> 02:29:10,820 that settlement might have been in that 3019 02:29:16,510 --> 02:29:13,160 area but let me tell you something 3020 02:29:19,810 --> 02:29:16,520 in no way that you're gonna get anywhere 3021 02:29:24,460 --> 02:29:19,820 near Kensington Minnesota or Mille Lacs 3022 02:29:28,870 --> 02:29:24,470 Lake or Duluth at that time from the 3023 02:29:30,250 --> 02:29:28,880 east coast unless the natives let you so 3024 02:29:33,160 --> 02:29:30,260 what does that mean did they fight their 3025 02:29:35,020 --> 02:29:33,170 way to Kensington no no they traveled 3026 02:29:36,640 --> 02:29:35,030 with the natives that's right clearly 3027 02:29:38,440 --> 02:29:36,650 that's what happened and in these 3028 02:29:41,800 --> 02:29:38,450 documents I've been making that argument 3029 02:29:43,690 --> 02:29:41,810 for 15 years and that's exactly what 3030 02:29:45,610 --> 02:29:43,700 comes out in the journals let's take a 3031 02:29:49,090 --> 02:29:45,620 break right here our guest tonight Scott 3032 02:29:51,120 --> 02:29:49,100 Wolter amazing conversation Scott let's 3033 02:29:54,610 --> 02:29:51,130 take a quick break and when we come back 3034 02:29:56,800 --> 02:29:54,620 yeah I'm gonna do it I'm gonna do this 3035 02:29:58,420 --> 02:29:56,810 for the audience and I'll respond to 3036 02:30:00,850 --> 02:29:58,430 Twitter I'm gonna do it we're gonna talk 3037 02:30:04,360 --> 02:30:00,860 a little Oak Island not directly Scott 3038 02:30:07,660 --> 02:30:04,370 we can't go direct we're gonna do a 3039 02:30:08,500 --> 02:30:07,670 drive yes tonight Scott Wolter I'm your 3040 02:30:10,060 --> 02:30:08,510 host Jimmy 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3124 02:34:52,430 --> 02:34:51,110 welcome back fade to black doing a 3125 02:34:54,051 --> 02:34:52,440 little overtime with our guest tonight 3126 02:34:54,591 --> 02:34:54,061 Scott Wolter but you knew this was 3127 02:34:58,161 --> 02:34:54,601 coming 3128 02:35:01,360 --> 02:34:58,171 that is not a problem nothing but good 3129 02:35:04,251 --> 02:35:01,370 conversations with Scott and Scott 3130 02:35:07,761 --> 02:35:04,261 eventually all all roads are gonna lead 3131 02:35:13,131 --> 02:35:07,771 to you know Oak Island and the question 3132 02:35:15,230 --> 02:35:13,141 of that I'm gonna ask you this in all of 3133 02:35:18,230 --> 02:35:15,240 your research all of that all of your 3134 02:35:21,161 --> 02:35:18,240 diet everything that we everything that 3135 02:35:24,051 --> 02:35:21,171 we have discussed is there any evidence 3136 02:35:26,570 --> 02:35:24,061 pointing to a connection between the 3137 02:35:29,991 --> 02:35:26,580 Knights Templar and Oak Island I don't 3138 02:35:35,801 --> 02:35:30,001 have a dog in this race okay I don't but 3139 02:35:41,921 --> 02:35:35,811 is there any evidence the answer is no I 3140 02:35:50,121 --> 02:35:47,270 negative not no and and let me just 3141 02:35:55,451 --> 02:35:50,131 preface this by saying I've been to Oak 3142 02:35:59,600 --> 02:35:55,461 Island multiple times and I've given 3143 02:36:04,400 --> 02:35:59,610 that story all the energy I'm going to 3144 02:36:07,850 --> 02:36:04,410 give it I I think you know and I want to 3145 02:36:10,371 --> 02:36:07,860 be clear I think the brothers they seem 3146 02:36:12,711 --> 02:36:10,381 like good guys and that they're you know 3147 02:36:17,690 --> 02:36:12,721 they really believe that there's 3148 02:36:18,951 --> 02:36:17,700 something there but there isn't well I 3149 02:36:21,591 --> 02:36:18,961 can tell you this there isn't any 3150 02:36:26,381 --> 02:36:21,601 Templar treasure because we know exactly 3151 02:36:30,801 --> 02:36:26,391 where the treasures went in great detail 3152 02:36:32,451 --> 02:36:30,811 like in in like amazing detail to the 3153 02:36:34,400 --> 02:36:32,461 point where I can say with 100% 3154 02:36:34,911 --> 02:36:34,410 confidence that there's nothing on Oak 3155 02:36:38,001 --> 02:36:34,921 Island 3156 02:36:39,680 --> 02:36:38,011 but there may you know I mean I mean 3157 02:36:43,161 --> 02:36:39,690 having said that is it possible that 3158 02:36:46,701 --> 02:36:43,171 there's a treasure that was buried there 3159 02:36:49,011 --> 02:36:46,711 at some time by somebody else yeah that 3160 02:36:52,461 --> 02:36:49,021 could happen it's probably recovered a 3161 02:36:54,350 --> 02:36:52,471 long time ago but I think it's said you 3162 02:36:55,850 --> 02:36:54,360 know I just don't think there's anything 3163 02:36:57,650 --> 02:36:55,860 there and no that's my personal opinion 3164 02:37:00,860 --> 02:36:57,660 and I have a lot of reasons for saying 3165 02:37:03,020 --> 02:37:00,870 that but no Templar treasure there there 3166 02:37:06,650 --> 02:37:03,030 there isn't much left 3167 02:37:10,370 --> 02:37:06,660 the island right the island it's small 3168 02:37:13,520 --> 02:37:10,380 right it's not big it's small you can 3169 02:37:16,160 --> 02:37:13,530 walk across it in very small it's very 3170 02:37:20,421 --> 02:37:16,170 small and it's been dug on and and 3171 02:37:22,160 --> 02:37:20,431 drilled to nothingness that's that's my 3172 02:37:27,440 --> 02:37:22,170 opinion but there's there's not a whole 3173 02:37:30,530 --> 02:37:27,450 lot left there is there not my opinion 3174 02:37:32,060 --> 02:37:30,540 you know you know you you're talking 3175 02:37:33,770 --> 02:37:32,070 about a story that's been around for 3176 02:37:37,430 --> 02:37:33,780 what two hundred and fifty years that's 3177 02:37:39,290 --> 02:37:37,440 right and I mean I gotta be honest with 3178 02:37:42,680 --> 02:37:39,300 you I mean I just find it laughable 3179 02:37:44,631 --> 02:37:42,690 you know they it seems like every few 3180 02:37:46,850 --> 02:37:44,641 episodes they walk along with a metal 3181 02:37:50,570 --> 02:37:46,860 detector and well they find some amazing 3182 02:37:52,850 --> 02:37:50,580 artifact you mean to tell me that these 3183 02:37:56,421 --> 02:37:52,860 guys first time anybody's walked those 3184 02:37:57,921 --> 02:37:56,431 beaches with a metal detector I have a 3185 02:38:01,490 --> 02:37:57,931 hard time believing that that's just me 3186 02:38:03,440 --> 02:38:01,500 but I could be wrong well I mean 3187 02:38:05,270 --> 02:38:03,450 obviously you could probably go to any 3188 02:38:07,640 --> 02:38:05,280 beach on this planet with the metal 3189 02:38:11,540 --> 02:38:07,650 detector and find something whether it's 3190 02:38:13,251 --> 02:38:11,550 a coin a bullets a sword you're gonna 3191 02:38:15,140 --> 02:38:13,261 find that stuff everywhere 3192 02:38:20,390 --> 02:38:15,150 that's that's what you do when you get a 3193 02:38:22,220 --> 02:38:20,400 metal detector you go to the beach the 3194 02:38:25,220 --> 02:38:22,230 other thing is there have been people 3195 02:38:27,171 --> 02:38:25,230 living on on those islands in Mahone Bay 3196 02:38:32,980 --> 02:38:27,181 and around the southern coast of Nova 3197 02:38:35,270 --> 02:38:32,990 Scotia for since the early 1600s and 3198 02:38:37,730 --> 02:38:35,280 before that there were Native Americans 3199 02:38:40,580 --> 02:38:37,740 I mean I you know you're gonna find 3200 02:38:43,700 --> 02:38:40,590 stuff and you know people lived and died 3201 02:38:48,261 --> 02:38:43,710 get buried on those islands so finding 3202 02:38:49,700 --> 02:38:48,271 human remains is not a big deal so I 3203 02:38:51,530 --> 02:38:49,710 don't know I mean you know what I you 3204 02:38:53,961 --> 02:38:51,540 know I tell people I said look I'm not 3205 02:38:56,631 --> 02:38:53,971 here to you know to beat on these guys I 3206 02:38:58,100 --> 02:38:56,641 just yeah I just not gonna lie to 3207 02:38:59,570 --> 02:38:58,110 anybody I'm going to tell them the truth 3208 02:39:01,790 --> 02:38:59,580 I'm gonna tell them what I really think 3209 02:39:04,280 --> 02:39:01,800 based on the information that I have and 3210 02:39:05,841 --> 02:39:04,290 I have a lot of information and I just 3211 02:39:08,600 --> 02:39:05,851 don't think there's anything there but 3212 02:39:10,580 --> 02:39:08,610 if you like the show and you you enjoy 3213 02:39:12,261 --> 02:39:10,590 the show watch the show and enjoy it as 3214 02:39:14,961 --> 02:39:12,271 entertainment I mean 3215 02:39:17,020 --> 02:39:14,971 knock yourself out it's it's not a crime 3216 02:39:20,150 --> 02:39:17,030 it's 3217 02:39:22,600 --> 02:39:20,160 hey you know those two brothers are 3218 02:39:25,671 --> 02:39:22,610 having a lot of fun right now I mean 3219 02:39:28,100 --> 02:39:25,681 making a lot of dough too well that 3220 02:39:29,930 --> 02:39:28,110 could be but I'm a little jealous I mean 3221 02:39:32,720 --> 02:39:29,940 to be able to have the resources to go 3222 02:39:35,570 --> 02:39:32,730 there in the first place yeah you know 3223 02:39:39,711 --> 02:39:35,580 listen you gotta give them credit they 3224 02:39:42,020 --> 02:39:39,721 put together a very successful show one 3225 02:39:43,310 --> 02:39:42,030 of the most successful shows I don't 3226 02:39:45,350 --> 02:39:43,320 know what the numbers are but it's 3227 02:39:47,360 --> 02:39:45,360 obviously doing extremely well and 3228 02:39:49,910 --> 02:39:47,370 they're a big part of it I mean they are 3229 02:39:52,100 --> 02:39:49,920 they are the face of that show and it's 3230 02:39:53,930 --> 02:39:52,110 it's doing extremely well and they 3231 02:39:56,900 --> 02:39:53,940 deserve a lot of credit good for them I 3232 02:40:00,440 --> 02:39:56,910 was watching Twitter right before the 3233 02:40:04,131 --> 02:40:00,450 show tonight and it's pretty impressive 3234 02:40:07,581 --> 02:40:04,141 to me that this audience is obviously 3235 02:40:12,470 --> 02:40:07,591 watching that show because immediately 3236 02:40:14,900 --> 02:40:12,480 ask s Scott about the crossbow bolt that 3237 02:40:18,140 --> 02:40:14,910 they just found well that was on 3238 02:40:23,810 --> 02:40:18,150 tonight's episode right so it's like in 3239 02:40:26,591 --> 02:40:23,820 real time last night I don't watch the 3240 02:40:28,030 --> 02:40:26,601 show so I was playing football and I I 3241 02:40:30,680 --> 02:40:28,040 honestly I 3242 02:40:32,770 --> 02:40:30,690 if you ask me right now how many 3243 02:40:37,730 --> 02:40:32,780 episodes I've watched start-to-finish 3244 02:40:39,890 --> 02:40:37,740 probably three or four I mean you know 3245 02:40:41,810 --> 02:40:39,900 in the six this is season six I've 3246 02:40:46,220 --> 02:40:41,820 watched three or four Episode III 3247 02:40:48,470 --> 02:40:46,230 personally I don't I don't care for it 3248 02:40:51,470 --> 02:40:48,480 too much I don't know if to say I just I 3249 02:40:53,450 --> 02:40:51,480 don't find it interesting it's not my 3250 02:40:55,190 --> 02:40:53,460 cup of tea I mean P I watch shows I'm 3251 02:40:56,690 --> 02:40:55,200 sure people can't stand they don't like 3252 02:40:58,520 --> 02:40:56,700 the show that I watch so that's that's 3253 02:41:02,600 --> 02:40:58,530 fine it's just not my cup of tea 3254 02:41:06,530 --> 02:41:02,610 the the interesting part for me when it 3255 02:41:10,190 --> 02:41:06,540 comes to oak island is because I when I 3256 02:41:12,320 --> 02:41:10,200 first got the internet and I'm talking 3257 02:41:15,320 --> 02:41:12,330 about you know let's go back to 1994 3258 02:41:19,190 --> 02:41:15,330 right okay yeah and I jump on the net 3259 02:41:21,291 --> 02:41:19,200 and there are no websites there isn't 3260 02:41:27,220 --> 02:41:21,301 anything out there you know if things 3261 02:41:29,240 --> 02:41:27,230 were rare back then and I found the only 3262 02:41:31,100 --> 02:41:29,250 website 3263 02:41:34,010 --> 02:41:31,110 about Oak Island it was like two pages 3264 02:41:36,830 --> 02:41:34,020 right very simple webs like Oak Island 3265 02:41:39,260 --> 02:41:36,840 what is this so I start to read about it 3266 02:41:42,320 --> 02:41:39,270 and then you know over the next couple 3267 02:41:45,350 --> 02:41:42,330 of years I'm researching oak island that 3268 02:41:47,480 --> 02:41:45,360 seems like nobody knew about this this 3269 02:41:51,410 --> 02:41:47,490 obscure place you know up there in 3270 02:41:54,550 --> 02:41:51,420 Canada and and and the story is 3271 02:41:59,270 --> 02:41:54,560 fascinating I think that back then 3272 02:42:00,620 --> 02:41:59,280 certainly the focus was on on pirate 3273 02:42:02,330 --> 02:42:00,630 treasure I don't think there was any 3274 02:42:05,960 --> 02:42:02,340 mention of the Knights Templar back then 3275 02:42:08,240 --> 02:42:05,970 but it was a fascinating story going 3276 02:42:11,750 --> 02:42:08,250 back to the original version of the you 3277 02:42:13,370 --> 02:42:11,760 know the two kids and you know and going 3278 02:42:15,110 --> 02:42:13,380 and getting their family jumping back on 3279 02:42:18,080 --> 02:42:15,120 the boat bringing him back over and they 3280 02:42:20,930 --> 02:42:18,090 start digging and and the the original 3281 02:42:23,300 --> 02:42:20,940 version of the story and I've been 3282 02:42:25,690 --> 02:42:23,310 fascinated with it ever since and I 3283 02:42:28,670 --> 02:42:25,700 would I would like to see it get 3284 02:42:34,790 --> 02:42:28,680 resolved one way or the other and I 3285 02:42:38,690 --> 02:42:34,800 don't I don't for a long time I just 3286 02:42:41,240 --> 02:42:38,700 don't know when I know I have looked at 3287 02:42:43,460 --> 02:42:41,250 different versions of the island over 3288 02:42:45,860 --> 02:42:43,470 the years you know the aerial shots and 3289 02:42:48,440 --> 02:42:45,870 at one point there was just nothing 3290 02:42:52,760 --> 02:42:48,450 there I mean they'd literally just I 3291 02:42:57,500 --> 02:42:52,770 mean with with great yes yes yes yes 3292 02:43:00,590 --> 02:42:57,510 yeah so yeah we you know I gotta say 3293 02:43:02,810 --> 02:43:00,600 though Jimmy and and I've met you know 3294 02:43:05,210 --> 02:43:02,820 Danny Blankenship and the guys you know 3295 02:43:08,660 --> 02:43:05,220 that we're there when I went there with 3296 02:43:14,240 --> 02:43:08,670 Nivens and Claire several years ten 3297 02:43:20,150 --> 02:43:14,250 years ago anyway so I get the whole vibe 3298 02:43:23,540 --> 02:43:20,160 there and the whole deal and I you know 3299 02:43:26,720 --> 02:43:23,550 I it's just it I think what it is is I 3300 02:43:30,650 --> 02:43:26,730 think human beings have a treasure gene 3301 02:43:33,590 --> 02:43:30,660 and it's like as long as there's even 3302 02:43:36,530 --> 02:43:33,600 one tenth of one percent of a chance 3303 02:43:38,750 --> 02:43:36,540 that something could be found we we hang 3304 02:43:42,140 --> 02:43:38,760 in there we can't let it go it's like 3305 02:43:43,490 --> 02:43:42,150 the mystery of Oh what could it be it 3306 02:43:45,530 --> 02:43:43,500 could this be the template 3307 02:43:47,720 --> 02:43:45,540 could this be pirate treasure what is 3308 02:43:50,960 --> 02:43:47,730 the treasure I mean it's like we just 3309 02:43:53,510 --> 02:43:50,970 can't let it go it's just weird and I 3310 02:43:56,330 --> 02:43:53,520 don't know I just think it's a genetic 3311 02:43:59,540 --> 02:43:56,340 thing that's in US and even when every 3312 02:44:02,780 --> 02:43:59,550 you know your your your your thinking 3313 02:44:03,410 --> 02:44:02,790 brain tells you it's over it's not gonna 3314 02:44:08,480 --> 02:44:03,420 happen 3315 02:44:10,630 --> 02:44:08,490 we just can't can't let go I remember 3316 02:44:15,440 --> 02:44:10,640 going back a couple of years ago or 3317 02:44:20,960 --> 02:44:15,450 longer you and I did a show about you 3318 02:44:24,110 --> 02:44:20,970 know deciphering of the map and you you 3319 02:44:27,830 --> 02:44:24,120 your location for any possibility of 3320 02:44:30,380 --> 02:44:27,840 anything Templar goin on up there was 3321 02:44:34,270 --> 02:44:30,390 wasn't anywhere near the island but you 3322 02:44:36,950 --> 02:44:34,280 did have a location yeah 3323 02:44:38,870 --> 02:44:36,960 more than one it looked here's the other 3324 02:44:39,980 --> 02:44:38,880 thing I'll just tell you this I really 3325 02:44:43,190 --> 02:44:39,990 don't want to get into too many details 3326 02:44:47,150 --> 02:44:43,200 of what's coming but I will tell you 3327 02:44:50,660 --> 02:44:47,160 this the Templars would never put all 3328 02:44:52,340 --> 02:44:50,670 their eggs in one basket okay anybody 3329 02:44:55,460 --> 02:44:52,350 who thinks they're gonna find the 3330 02:45:00,110 --> 02:44:55,470 Templar treasure it doesn't work that 3331 02:45:02,930 --> 02:45:00,120 way they spread things around not dumb 3332 02:45:04,460 --> 02:45:02,940 they're just they're just nuts nobody 3333 02:45:07,910 --> 02:45:04,470 would do that here's the other thing let 3334 02:45:09,860 --> 02:45:07,920 me also just say this Jim okay so how 3335 02:45:11,990 --> 02:45:09,870 deep if they dug down on Oak Island ah 3336 02:45:17,180 --> 02:45:12,000 they're like I've heard numbers like 3337 02:45:20,030 --> 02:45:17,190 over 200 feet 200 yeah okay so let me 3338 02:45:22,970 --> 02:45:20,040 ask you a question if you have a 3339 02:45:28,040 --> 02:45:22,980 treasure and you go out the woods and 3340 02:45:30,230 --> 02:45:28,050 you bury it a foot under the ground but 3341 02:45:31,550 --> 02:45:30,240 you don't know where it is or I don't 3342 02:45:34,280 --> 02:45:31,560 know where it is okay 3343 02:45:38,450 --> 02:45:34,290 does it matter if you bury it one foot 3344 02:45:39,680 --> 02:45:38,460 ten feet or a thousand feet no because 3345 02:45:42,890 --> 02:45:39,690 if I don't know where it is 3346 02:45:46,400 --> 02:45:42,900 I'm not going to find it right on the 3347 02:45:51,800 --> 02:45:46,410 other hand if I do know where it is 3348 02:45:54,680 --> 02:45:51,810 and it's worth potentially billions of 3349 02:45:57,250 --> 02:45:54,690 dollars let's say do you think if I'm 3350 02:46:00,580 --> 02:45:57,260 the church or I'm a government or I'm 3351 02:46:02,979 --> 02:46:00,590 somebody who's got the means that I care 3352 02:46:05,710 --> 02:46:02,989 if it's one foot ten feet or a hundred 3353 02:46:08,290 --> 02:46:05,720 feet or 200 feet if I know where it is 3354 02:46:12,219 --> 02:46:08,300 I'm going to get it so the point is why 3355 02:46:14,380 --> 02:46:12,229 would you bury something that deep no 3356 02:46:18,189 --> 02:46:14,390 one's going to do that on a glacial and 3357 02:46:20,620 --> 02:46:18,199 moraine island on the ocean okay this 3358 02:46:23,739 --> 02:46:20,630 whole talk about flood tunnels it's 3359 02:46:26,739 --> 02:46:23,749 called the water table if you dig down 3360 02:46:30,130 --> 02:46:26,749 below the level of the ocean waters 3361 02:46:32,260 --> 02:46:30,140 gonna flow in there's no evidence that 3362 02:46:35,559 --> 02:46:32,270 there was flood tunnels that's a bunch 3363 02:46:38,410 --> 02:46:35,569 of BS there's takes this nine level 3364 02:46:40,510 --> 02:46:38,420 stuff I saw no evidence of that this 3365 02:46:42,750 --> 02:46:40,520 90-foot stone I don't think it ever 3366 02:46:45,130 --> 02:46:42,760 existed I think that's a complete myth 3367 02:46:46,660 --> 02:46:45,140 and until somebody because that's what I 3368 02:46:48,880 --> 02:46:46,670 was looking for I wanted to see that I 3369 02:46:50,380 --> 02:46:48,890 want to look at the inscribed symbols on 3370 02:46:53,710 --> 02:46:50,390 it I want to see if it had weathering 3371 02:46:55,750 --> 02:46:53,720 you know do the thing that I do I think 3372 02:46:59,319 --> 02:46:55,760 most of this stuff that everybody just 3373 02:47:02,109 --> 02:46:59,329 accepts as fact is a myth I don't think 3374 02:47:05,139 --> 02:47:02,119 any of it exists geologically it makes 3375 02:47:07,840 --> 02:47:05,149 no sense the technology the Templars had 3376 02:47:10,899 --> 02:47:07,850 back at that time to go down ten feet 3377 02:47:12,399 --> 02:47:10,909 under the water maybe why if you're 3378 02:47:14,019 --> 02:47:12,409 buried at the ground and it didn't have 3379 02:47:15,880 --> 02:47:14,029 metal detectors back then how is 3380 02:47:18,370 --> 02:47:15,890 somebody gonna you had no reason to bury 3381 02:47:23,080 --> 02:47:18,380 at that deep it's just none of it makes 3382 02:47:25,510 --> 02:47:23,090 any sense the the other part and this is 3383 02:47:28,599 --> 02:47:25,520 this is the obvious thing to say and my 3384 02:47:31,300 --> 02:47:28,609 mind always went here you go back in 3385 02:47:34,330 --> 02:47:31,310 your mind's eye to two hundred and fifty 3386 02:47:38,099 --> 02:47:34,340 years ago and the resources that were on 3387 02:47:42,069 --> 02:47:38,109 some ship that pulled up to the island 3388 02:47:47,439 --> 02:47:42,079 shovels is one thing but the ability to 3389 02:47:50,800 --> 02:47:47,449 dig 250 feet 200 feet into the ground I 3390 02:47:55,059 --> 02:47:50,810 I just don't see it by anybody water 3391 02:47:57,760 --> 02:47:55,069 right by anybody anywhere you know dude 3392 02:48:00,029 --> 02:47:57,770 nothing happened forget about it it 3393 02:48:03,279 --> 02:48:00,039 didn't happen I mean it didn't happen 3394 02:48:05,859 --> 02:48:03,289 250 years ago it sure as hell didn't 3395 02:48:08,500 --> 02:48:05,869 happen 600 years ago when the Templars 3396 02:48:10,040 --> 02:48:08,510 were here forget it it's a non-starter 3397 02:48:15,679 --> 02:48:10,050 didn't happen 3398 02:48:17,740 --> 02:48:15,689 I mean that that is a Egypt right a 300 3399 02:48:21,500 --> 02:48:17,750 foot tunnel underneath the Great Pyramid 3400 02:48:23,780 --> 02:48:21,510 okay through rock well let's let's think 3401 02:48:26,330 --> 02:48:23,790 about that for a second we're talking 3402 02:48:31,550 --> 02:48:26,340 about a potential work crew above-ground 3403 02:48:34,250 --> 02:48:31,560 of ten or fifteen thousand people what 3404 02:48:36,590 --> 02:48:34,260 is the rock right right it's a limestone 3405 02:48:38,809 --> 02:48:36,600 it's about the easiest Rock you can 3406 02:48:41,900 --> 02:48:38,819 carve and that's what I mean tunnel 3407 02:48:43,760 --> 02:48:41,910 systems are are easy in limestone may be 3408 02:48:45,410 --> 02:48:43,770 relatively easy and sure it would take 3409 02:48:47,719 --> 02:48:45,420 some work but that's a whole different 3410 02:48:50,120 --> 02:48:47,729 thing okay that's a completely different 3411 02:48:54,770 --> 02:48:50,130 thing we're it's it's not under water 3412 02:48:57,260 --> 02:48:54,780 know it and you have infrastructure you 3413 02:49:00,349 --> 02:48:57,270 have a support system you have food you 3414 02:49:03,349 --> 02:49:00,359 have things and the large work crew 3415 02:49:05,900 --> 02:49:03,359 we're talking about a boat right that 3416 02:49:08,780 --> 02:49:05,910 just came across the ocean with a with a 3417 02:49:11,210 --> 02:49:08,790 small crew probably not a lot of its 3418 02:49:14,210 --> 02:49:11,220 they only have what they have with them 3419 02:49:19,190 --> 02:49:14,220 and the ability to turn around and bore 3420 02:49:22,490 --> 02:49:19,200 a tunnel 250 day no I I have a problem 3421 02:49:25,639 --> 02:49:22,500 with that now the smell test 3422 02:49:27,679 --> 02:49:25,649 it doesn't pass any logical analysis it 3423 02:49:30,200 --> 02:49:27,689 doesn't it's just it didn't happen I'm 3424 02:49:31,880 --> 02:49:30,210 sorry it just didn't and I know that a 3425 02:49:33,500 --> 02:49:31,890 lot of people are gonna be disappointed 3426 02:49:35,870 --> 02:49:33,510 but I I what do you want for me you want 3427 02:49:37,250 --> 02:49:35,880 you don't ask the question if you don't 3428 02:49:39,740 --> 02:49:37,260 want to if you don't want to get the 3429 02:49:43,370 --> 02:49:39,750 rest of this the answer I mean I wanted 3430 02:49:45,650 --> 02:49:43,380 to be true I love it be great I love it 3431 02:49:47,960 --> 02:49:45,660 I'd love to see him get their dream and 3432 02:49:49,550 --> 02:49:47,970 and I'd love to see what they find I 3433 02:49:51,260 --> 02:49:49,560 just know it's not Templar treasure 3434 02:49:53,090 --> 02:49:51,270 there could be something there there 3435 02:49:55,130 --> 02:49:53,100 could be something else maybe some but 3436 02:49:56,630 --> 02:49:55,140 you know what isn't the story these guys 3437 02:49:58,580 --> 02:49:56,640 dug and they found it didn't they find 3438 02:50:01,639 --> 02:49:58,590 it already I mean I thought I thought 3439 02:50:04,610 --> 02:50:01,649 that was the story well this is what I 3440 02:50:08,240 --> 02:50:04,620 would do this is what I would do if I 3441 02:50:10,940 --> 02:50:08,250 had that kind of money right it's and 3442 02:50:14,840 --> 02:50:10,950 I'm not kidding I would pull up and I 3443 02:50:15,170 --> 02:50:14,850 would just move the island I would take 3444 02:50:24,530 --> 02:50:15,180 it 3445 02:50:26,751 --> 02:50:24,540 a barrier some kind of inflate and you 3446 02:50:29,331 --> 02:50:26,761 know it's some kind of you know I would 3447 02:50:33,831 --> 02:50:29,341 surround it with plastic I would take 3448 02:50:38,780 --> 02:50:33,841 the island dredge it move it 10 feet 3449 02:50:40,280 --> 02:50:38,790 over I would your say it makes perfect 3450 02:50:41,541 --> 02:50:40,290 sense but you bring you bring up an 3451 02:50:43,360 --> 02:50:41,551 interesting point that we haven't 3452 02:50:48,470 --> 02:50:43,370 touched on and nobody ever talks about 3453 02:50:51,200 --> 02:50:48,480 okay even the brothers and the 3454 02:50:53,780 --> 02:50:51,210 production company in real life making 3455 02:50:55,551 --> 02:50:53,790 that show there are only certain things 3456 02:50:57,411 --> 02:50:55,561 that they can do okay 3457 02:50:59,631 --> 02:50:57,421 the Canadian government is not going to 3458 02:51:03,831 --> 02:50:59,641 let them do what you just would love to 3459 02:51:05,631 --> 02:51:03,841 do and in fact a lot of the things that 3460 02:51:07,310 --> 02:51:05,641 they say they're doing on that show I 3461 02:51:09,110 --> 02:51:07,320 don't believe is really happening 3462 02:51:13,280 --> 02:51:09,120 because they don't think the regulations 3463 02:51:14,871 --> 02:51:13,290 environmental regulations and the 3464 02:51:16,161 --> 02:51:14,881 government would allow them to do some 3465 02:51:17,990 --> 02:51:16,171 of the things that they say that they're 3466 02:51:21,980 --> 02:51:18,000 doing I just don't I don't see it 3467 02:51:24,560 --> 02:51:21,990 happening so you know you can't just 3468 02:51:26,810 --> 02:51:24,570 move an island ten feet over unless you 3469 02:51:28,640 --> 02:51:26,820 buy it it's yours even if you buy it and 3470 02:51:30,711 --> 02:51:28,650 it's yours the government still has to 3471 02:51:32,541 --> 02:51:30,721 say over what happens you've got you 3472 02:51:35,421 --> 02:51:32,551 know wildlife considerations you've got 3473 02:51:37,220 --> 02:51:35,431 pollution considerations you got there's 3474 02:51:40,011 --> 02:51:37,230 all kinds of stuff that that you just 3475 02:51:42,230 --> 02:51:40,021 can't do even if it's your own property 3476 02:51:44,930 --> 02:51:42,240 you can't do it can't dump out oil and 3477 02:51:47,331 --> 02:51:44,940 gasoline you know in the ground right we 3478 02:51:49,011 --> 02:51:47,341 can't do that's against the law so 3479 02:51:51,890 --> 02:51:49,021 there's there's all kinds of and then 3480 02:51:55,430 --> 02:51:51,900 exact antiquity laws you've got I mean 3481 02:51:57,980 --> 02:51:55,440 if they find an artifact that's really 3482 02:51:59,871 --> 02:51:57,990 that old the government will come in 3483 02:52:02,030 --> 02:51:59,881 they'll shut that thing down and they 3484 02:52:04,421 --> 02:52:02,040 will turn it over the archaeologists the 3485 02:52:13,610 --> 02:52:04,431 proper authorities and that's it's over 3486 02:52:18,371 --> 02:52:13,620 so III there's just it's just to be real 3487 02:52:20,421 --> 02:52:18,381 Scott I've been I've got like 25 years 3488 02:52:24,501 --> 02:52:20,431 invested into Oak Island 3489 02:52:27,381 --> 02:52:24,511 I really do I mean like I said it goes 3490 02:52:30,470 --> 02:52:27,391 back that far for me when I brought up 3491 02:52:32,860 --> 02:52:30,480 Oak Island to my friends back in in 94 3492 02:52:34,450 --> 02:52:32,870 95 nobody had ever heard of it 3493 02:52:39,790 --> 02:52:34,460 and I'm like no you gotta check this out 3494 02:52:41,710 --> 02:52:39,800 you know I would show them yeah Jim you 3495 02:52:48,700 --> 02:52:41,720 know when I was a little kid I believed 3496 02:52:55,360 --> 02:52:51,761 why would I could try to crush your 25 3497 02:52:57,850 --> 02:52:55,370 year old your 25 year dream you know 3498 02:53:05,470 --> 02:52:57,860 okay Scott but what are you saying Santa 3499 02:53:07,210 --> 02:53:05,480 Claus isn't real are you doing that all 3500 02:53:10,140 --> 02:53:07,220 right what's that when's the new book 3501 02:53:14,380 --> 02:53:10,150 coming out when can we expect it well I 3502 02:53:18,910 --> 02:53:14,390 think the way it's scheduled right now 3503 02:53:22,841 --> 02:53:18,920 probably I would love to say radar on 3504 02:53:24,370 --> 02:53:22,851 May 1st of May something like that and I 3505 02:53:26,320 --> 02:53:24,380 think I think you're gonna really like 3506 02:53:30,160 --> 02:53:26,330 this book I put a lot into this we've 3507 02:53:32,500 --> 02:53:30,170 got some amazing reveals that are going 3508 02:53:35,290 --> 02:53:32,510 to come out I talk at length about the 3509 02:53:37,030 --> 02:53:35,300 Cremona document I do not talk at all 3510 02:53:41,380 --> 02:53:37,040 about the journals in this book because 3511 02:53:43,390 --> 02:53:41,390 it's almost 350 pages as it is right now 3512 02:53:45,880 --> 02:53:43,400 so I'm gonna save that for the next one 3513 02:53:48,040 --> 02:53:45,890 and you know we're not gonna you know 3514 02:53:50,980 --> 02:53:48,050 Diane is not going to hurry and release 3515 02:53:53,860 --> 02:53:50,990 these journals because there is so much 3516 02:53:57,460 --> 02:53:53,870 to unpack in them just this first book 3517 02:54:00,850 --> 02:53:57,470 alone covers you know 42 years of his 3518 02:54:02,380 --> 02:54:00,860 life I think and there's there's a lot 3519 02:54:04,480 --> 02:54:02,390 of entries in there there are a lot of 3520 02:54:06,850 --> 02:54:04,490 things that happen I mean the Kensington 3521 02:54:08,860 --> 02:54:06,860 party being revealed and there's more to 3522 02:54:11,620 --> 02:54:08,870 the Kensington party in the next couple 3523 02:54:15,730 --> 02:54:11,630 but there is this is such a big 3524 02:54:19,270 --> 02:54:15,740 important story it's going to take a 3525 02:54:21,040 --> 02:54:19,280 little time for it to come out and I all 3526 02:54:23,080 --> 02:54:21,050 I can tell you is you will not be 3527 02:54:24,880 --> 02:54:23,090 disappointed and we are going to be 3528 02:54:28,600 --> 02:54:24,890 doing some follow up on some of the 3529 02:54:31,890 --> 02:54:28,610 things that are not published yet and if 3530 02:54:35,200 --> 02:54:31,900 if we find something 3531 02:54:38,410 --> 02:54:35,210 it'll be worldwide news they can't deny 3532 02:54:42,910 --> 02:54:38,420 it look the the skeptics the debunkers 3533 02:54:45,560 --> 02:54:42,920 the deniers that all say this is BS one 3534 02:54:47,420 --> 02:54:45,570 of the complaints they have is 3535 02:54:51,591 --> 02:54:47,430 we need to see something come out of the 3536 02:54:53,600 --> 02:54:51,601 ground well I'm hopeful that'll happen 3537 02:54:56,420 --> 02:54:53,610 let's just leave it at that and if it 3538 02:54:58,940 --> 02:54:56,430 does we're gonna have a party Jimmy I 3539 02:55:04,070 --> 02:54:58,950 can't wait for it no no I can't wait for 3540 02:55:06,261 --> 02:55:04,080 it and with with Diana's book too is I 3541 02:55:09,410 --> 02:55:06,271 know that there's 20 journals there's 20 3542 02:55:13,700 --> 02:55:09,420 books here is there going to be a second 3543 02:55:15,920 --> 02:55:13,710 book from her in 2019 yes and and maybe 3544 02:55:19,210 --> 02:55:15,930 more we'll say I'm not sure can it 3545 02:55:24,440 --> 02:55:19,220 depends on how things go but what I'm 3546 02:55:27,380 --> 02:55:24,450 thinking she might do is the next Earl 3547 02:55:31,790 --> 02:55:27,390 Henry wrote three books this is the 3548 02:55:35,750 --> 02:55:31,800 first one the next two are about his 3549 02:55:38,450 --> 02:55:35,760 trips over here and they are incredible 3550 02:55:42,680 --> 02:55:38,460 and I think maybe those two books would 3551 02:55:44,810 --> 02:55:42,690 be the next logical book and there's 3552 02:55:47,511 --> 02:55:44,820 just so much in there that is so good 3553 02:55:49,100 --> 02:55:47,521 that will dovetail with things we've 3554 02:55:53,600 --> 02:55:49,110 already talked about that we're not 3555 02:55:55,910 --> 02:55:53,610 talking about right now it's it's 3556 02:55:57,261 --> 02:55:55,920 amazing it's just an amazing story 3557 02:55:58,970 --> 02:55:57,271 that's all I can say 3558 02:56:05,051 --> 02:55:58,980 the next book will be really good this 3559 02:56:10,580 --> 02:56:05,061 book is great but the next one it's it's 3560 02:56:12,530 --> 02:56:10,590 it's adventure it's it's amazing and 3561 02:56:15,650 --> 02:56:12,540 again I'm always going to preface it by 3562 02:56:17,780 --> 02:56:15,660 saying I'm 99% convinced the story's 3563 02:56:19,761 --> 02:56:17,790 true I'll be a hundred percent there 3564 02:56:22,700 --> 02:56:19,771 when we pull something out of the ground 3565 02:56:25,190 --> 02:56:22,710 and we have lots of targets and we're 3566 02:56:27,261 --> 02:56:25,200 gonna start on them very soon thank you 3567 02:56:27,950 --> 02:56:27,271 so much God give my best to Jann get 3568 02:56:30,801 --> 02:56:27,960 some rest 3569 02:56:33,080 --> 02:56:30,811 and we will talk very soon thank you so 3570 02:56:35,900 --> 02:56:33,090 much Jimmy thank you for having me on 3571 02:56:37,520 --> 02:56:35,910 it's so much fun I feel like I feel like 3572 02:56:40,280 --> 02:56:37,530 I'm sitting in a room right next to it 3573 02:56:43,070 --> 02:56:40,290 it's you do a great job and I appreciate 3574 02:56:46,250 --> 02:56:43,080 the opportunity by the way if you get a 3575 02:56:47,720 --> 02:56:46,260 chance I sent you an email if people are 3576 02:56:49,640 --> 02:56:47,730 interested in the book there's a link 3577 02:56:52,850 --> 02:56:49,650 there and of course if anybody's 3578 02:56:56,060 --> 02:56:52,860 interested in my stuff go to WWE XCOM 3579 02:56:58,130 --> 02:56:56,070 and thank you again appreciate it 3580 02:56:59,450 --> 02:56:58,140 we've got everything right there at your 3581 02:57:01,820 --> 02:56:59,460 insurance rate 3582 02:57:04,010 --> 02:57:01,830 thank you so much Scott alright well 3583 02:57:06,140 --> 02:57:04,020 chat soon fell oh we've got more to talk 3584 02:57:08,630 --> 02:57:06,150 about and I'll announce that next week 3585 02:57:11,000 --> 02:57:08,640 okay thank you so much all right great 3586 02:57:14,570 --> 02:57:11,010 thank you have a good night all right 3587 02:57:17,480 --> 02:57:14,580 you too Scott Wolter yes Scott Wolter 3588 02:57:20,210 --> 02:57:17,490 answers dot blog spot.com the links are 3589 02:57:24,410 --> 02:57:20,220 over at Jimmy Church radio.com and of 3590 02:57:26,390 --> 02:57:24,420 course hooked x.com Scott Wolter what a 3591 02:57:27,740 --> 02:57:26,400 great this is a show I know everybody's 3592 02:57:29,570 --> 02:57:27,750 going to be listening to a couple of 3593 02:57:33,440 --> 02:57:29,580 times but a lot of information tonight 3594 02:57:35,929 --> 02:57:33,450 and over at Scott Wolter answers there's 3595 02:57:37,130 --> 02:57:35,939 some great images too as well there the 3596 02:57:39,890 --> 02:57:37,140 links were over at Jimmy Church 3597 02:57:41,840 --> 02:57:39,900 radio.com and with that I'm gonna get 3598 02:57:44,420 --> 02:57:41,850 out of here tomorrow night is Fator 3599 02:57:46,760 --> 02:57:44,430 night it's gonna be open lines all night 3600 02:57:49,760 --> 02:57:46,770 long like we do every Thursday night 3601 02:57:51,860 --> 02:57:49,770 Theresa Canaris is going to be here with 3602 02:57:55,850 --> 02:57:51,870 a divine frequency on the airwaves 3603 02:57:58,190 --> 02:57:55,860 followed by open lines all night long I 3604 02:58:00,550 --> 02:57:58,200 am your host Jimmy Church thank you to 3605 02:58:03,590 --> 02:58:00,560 everybody that tweeted in tonight and 3606 02:58:05,690 --> 02:58:03,600 just great stuff great email too as well 3607 02:58:07,700 --> 02:58:05,700 thank you for all of that fate of blocks 3608 02:58:10,040 --> 02:58:07,710 is executive producer is Rita Kumari on 3609 02:58:12,620 --> 02:58:10,050 shows produced by Hill Jay Paul Renee 3610 02:58:15,050 --> 02:58:12,630 Dennis and Bob announcers are Steve 3611 02:58:18,260 --> 02:58:15,060 Carter gene Vito a mark D Cove our 3612 02:58:20,870 --> 02:58:18,270 webmaster is Drew the geek music doug 3613 02:58:24,160 --> 02:58:20,880 aldrich intro space boys space boy music 3614 02:58:28,490 --> 02:58:24,170 comm beta blacktips produced by kjsurya 3615 02:58:31,100 --> 02:58:28,500 that were considered as kgr a the planet 3616 02:58:33,170 --> 02:58:31,110 thank you to Scott Wolter let's podcast 3617 02:58:35,300 --> 02:58:33,180 own a copyright of 2018 by fade to black 3618 02:58:37,580 --> 02:58:35,310 and the game 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